Been on this group for a few years..
Been reading all that is posting.
Did not post on the selling case cause I dont feel that my insight would be that much usefull.
Even try to have my Edgerouter X to run my Gateway. It did work. It was not as easy as I had hope.
But one thing that I did understand after the fact is that all the traffic for the 44 net in a setup like mine (ipip) need to travel by the amprnet main adress and this is a nice bottleneck. I am not bitching about the free service.. I really like all the work that been done for the 44net group.
But since the group got some money out of the selling of our common property, I think that either we deal with bgp and other nice tech to use a route that dont pass by the main ip adress or we beef up the main service in a way that we have some real bandwith to spare.
I am saying that cause what is the use of having million of IPv4 adress if we can only use them with a snail bandwith.
So I vote, that is if I can vote on anything, for taking that opportunity we as a group have to become the defacto service for the needy ham that have a project that use IP network.
I am not the best in networking, in fact my knowledge is pale compare to most of you guys..But I’ve been able to do a lot of stuff with little support on many project. I am the average ham that hope to learn the more he can.. Please help me!!!
Pierre VE2PF
________________________________ De : 44Net 44net-bounces+petem001=hotmail.com@mailman.ampr.org de la part de Charles J. Hargrove via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Envoyé : Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:52:19 PM À : 44net@mailman.ampr.org 44net@mailman.ampr.org Cc : Charles J. Hargrove n2nov@n2nov.net Objet : Re: [44net] Time to restructure the network?
Since most of the new people that I run into on 44Net do not have the same or better networking background that some of us have, a compelling need coupled with an explanatory story should be the approach with these newbies. A step-by-step primer needs to be provided and people to step up as the mentors for their regions should be the way forward. Just stating that they are wrong, that things are easier if only they do it this way and then leave them to their own devices is not conducive to building up the ranks of networking savvy colleagues. We will all get older and die off before we get any to replace us if we keep going in this direction.
On 7/20/2019 3:40 PM, Rob Janssen via 44Net wrote:
Well, I think there are enough examples of how to do it (also already doing it within AMPRnet), lots of people who can contribute knowledge and will volunteer to help, the only thing we lack here in this group is someone (with the appropriate authority) who says "Lets' do that!" and gets everyone moving.
That is why these discussions usually go on for a couple of days here, then die out, and nothing ever changes. We are still running the same system as 25 years ago, with only the addition of RIP auto route distribution.
This gets worse over time, as those who would like to change things see this and leave, and in the end we only have a number of old hats left who don't change anything. That does not improve our reputation... sometimes newcomers ask "why do we use that method when it is so difficult to implement and it can all be done so much easier", and the only response can be "don't ask...".
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