Hello,

well, a longer tradition than the quite new portal are the country-wide IP-Koordinators.

In DL, we have the coordination team of three people (dd9qp, dg8ngn, dl9sau) and we delegate the responsibility of the local assignments to the regional coordinators. This concept goes back to the last century.

From the regional coordinator, Wolfgang had got the initial assignment of his IP addresses.

Some time ago, we did a clean-up of the old 44.130 packet-radio block in communication with the regional coordinators.

What's with the portal? - I think we need discuss that. It had been no relevance for us (since no one requested it), and I'm not sure, how it fits in a concept of the country coordinator system (unless a country coordinator defines a do-what-you-want-netblock for self-allocation - but how this may be integrated in a working routing concept??).

Region ofr.de (44.130.62.0/24) was resigned 2013-07-31. Regional Coordinator was DL1NAT. The zone file of that region expired with serial 2004041601. Nine years after the last update. forward- and reverse- entries were inconsistent: the reverse file had the serial number 2002062201 (I assume 2 years before).

I do not like to blame anyone, but it may be useful in that discussion. 9 (or 11) years after the last coordination of the subnet and 2.5 years after your regional coordinator stated that all records could be removed, you recognize that dg7nef, dg7nef-2 and dg7nef-gate ( 44.130.62.20, .18, .19) have been passed back.

This emphasizes both, the difficulties we'll get, even years after a clean-up, and on the other site the need to have a clean-up (the /24 had 57 entries (22%) and we finally got one complain (Wolfgang had 3 addresses -> 5 %). For most cleaned subnets we got 0 responses at all).

And imho, it also shows the country- / regional-wide coordination concept makes sense. Currently, we've 35866 IN A records in ampr.org. Imagine we'll have 10 requests a day on the list of the pool of every user, we all will have to read the next 10 years about every individual issue.

vy 73, - Thomas dl9sau IP coordination team DL

On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 08:03:42PM +0100, Dg7nef wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ One kind question,

first of all, after a forced break due to changing my home address and various other reasons not to be discussed here I had to learn my IP adresses assigned to me long ago and that I used for a long time ago are no longer existing. OK, maybe I can understand the reason for that.

Now I'm searching for that "portal" to register myself for getting a new IP assignment for being able to start playing with Amateur Radio Packet applications and so on, so I search for the portal. Well, there is a portal. But that portal is not showing up at all when you try to contact it.

Does that mean you have to have an IP to register for an AmPR IP, but no wait - I just want to register for it?

Can you please enlighten me what is going on here? I just don't understand it right now.

Thanks, Wolfgang

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