Hi all, I’m a bit sorry to have brought the issue of google’s inability to crawl ampr.org subdomains. I thought others might also feel that it would be nice to have their ARES group or other Ham group represented on the Ham network (44Net) for the work to see. Instead it feels like there is no interest at all in figuring out why this happens, instead blaming it on Google, or me for brining the issue forward and trying to contact google for help (you do realize that the only way to actually talk to google is to know someone there, so I’m sorry that I have “a friend” at google that tried to help with some inside information that the google search console does not provide.)
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Roger,
No trying to poo-poo this but we'd really need specific info from your inside guy on what is wrong on our end. We know it's not the top level robots.txt, so what is the issue? Seriously how are we supposed to figure it out, when its google's crawl rules. Till we better understand what they are, what are you proposing we do?
Steve
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 5:34 PM Roger va7lbb@rezgas.com wrote:
Hi all, I’m a bit sorry to have brought the issue of google’s inability to crawl ampr.org subdomains. I thought others might also feel that it would be nice to have their ARES group or other Ham group represented on the Ham network (44Net) for the work to see. Instead it feels like there is no interest at all in figuring out why this happens, instead blaming it on Google, or me for brining the issue forward and trying to contact google for help (you do realize that the only way to actually talk to google is to know someone there, so I’m sorry that I have “a friend” at google that tried to help with some inside information that the google search console does not provide.)
Roger VA7LBB
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Hi Roger,
The point others have made, is that there does not appear to be an issue with Google crawling and indexing *.ampr.org websites.
For example, I just browsed to www.google.co.uk and typed in “site:ampr.org” and it found 9,400 entries, the top hit being vkfaq.ampr.org
The meta description on this site is "Information about Amateur Radio in Australia. Licence conditions”, I then went back to www.google.co.uk and typed that meta description in as a search term and indeed vkfaq.ampr.org appears on the first page.
So clearly Google *IS* crawling some *.ampr.org sites, indeed it found 9,400 unique URLs within *.ampr.org that it has indexed. Google may not have crawled your particular site, but as it is crawling other *.ampr.org sites and including them in its index, then that would suggest the problem lies with your website and not the top level amp.org domain.
Hope that helps.
Regards, Chris
On 4 May 2019, at 23:32, Roger va7lbb@rezgas.com wrote:
Hi all, I’m a bit sorry to have brought the issue of google’s inability to crawl ampr.org subdomains. I thought others might also feel that it would be nice to have their ARES group or other Ham group represented on the Ham network (44Net) for the work to see. Instead it feels like there is no interest at all in figuring out why this happens, instead blaming it on Google, or me for brining the issue forward and trying to contact google for help (you do realize that the only way to actually talk to google is to know someone there, so I’m sorry that I have “a friend” at google that tried to help with some inside information that the google search console does not provide.)
Roger VA7LBB
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When one asked what your site was, you didn't reply. If it's va7llb.ampr.org, it is unreachable from the internet today. That'd stop more than Google indexer...
Regards, ki4cuw
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 4:30 AM G1FEF via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Hi Roger,
The point others have made, is that there does not appear to be an issue with Google crawling and indexing *.ampr.org websites.
For example, I just browsed to www.google.co.uk and typed in “site: ampr.org” and it found 9,400 entries, the top hit being vkfaq.ampr.org
The meta description on this site is "Information about Amateur Radio in Australia. Licence conditions”, I then went back to www.google.co.uk and typed that meta description in as a search term and indeed vkfaq.ampr.org appears on the first page.
So clearly Google *IS* crawling some *.ampr.org sites, indeed it found 9,400 unique URLs within *.ampr.org that it has indexed. Google may not have crawled your particular site, but as it is crawling other *.ampr.org sites and including them in its index, then that would suggest the problem lies with your website and not the top level amp.org domain.
Hope that helps.
Regards, Chris
On 4 May 2019, at 23:32, Roger va7lbb@rezgas.com wrote:
Hi all, I’m a bit sorry to have brought the issue of google’s inability to
crawl ampr.org subdomains. I thought others might also feel that it would be nice to have their ARES group or other Ham group represented on the Ham network (44Net) for the work to see. Instead it feels like there is no interest at all in figuring out why this happens, instead blaming it on Google, or me for brining the issue forward and trying to contact google for help (you do realize that the only way to actually talk to google is to know someone there, so I’m sorry that I have “a friend” at google that tried to help with some inside information that the google search console does not provide.)
Roger VA7LBB
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Sorry, it was va7lbb.ampr.org that I tried. I only misspelled it using my mobiles email client. I can reach the gateway though. So I believe there may be some traffic rules that need setup in the gateway to pass traffic to your site. Hope this helps.
Regards, Scott.
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When one asked what your site was, you didn't reply. If it's va7llb.ampr.org, it is unreachable from the internet today. That'd stop more than Google indexer...
Regards, ki4cuw
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 4:30 AM G1FEF via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Hi Roger,
The point others have made, is that there does not appear to be an issue with Google crawling and indexing *.ampr.org websites.
For example, I just browsed to www.google.co.uk and typed in “site: ampr.org” and it found 9,400 entries, the top hit being vkfaq.ampr.org
The meta description on this site is "Information about Amateur Radio in Australia. Licence conditions”, I then went back to www.google.co.uk and typed that meta description in as a search term and indeed vkfaq.ampr.org appears on the first page.
So clearly Google *IS* crawling some *.ampr.org sites, indeed it found 9,400 unique URLs within *.ampr.org that it has indexed. Google may not have crawled your particular site, but as it is crawling other *.ampr.org sites and including them in its index, then that would suggest the problem lies with your website and not the top level amp.org domain.
Hope that helps.
Regards, Chris
On 4 May 2019, at 23:32, Roger va7lbb@rezgas.com wrote:
Hi all, I’m a bit sorry to have brought the issue of google’s inability to
crawl ampr.org subdomains. I thought others might also feel that it would be nice to have their ARES group or other Ham group represented on the Ham network (44Net) for the work to see. Instead it feels like there is no interest at all in figuring out why this happens, instead blaming it on Google, or me for brining the issue forward and trying to contact google for help (you do realize that the only way to actually talk to google is to know someone there, so I’m sorry that I have “a friend” at google that tried to help with some inside information that the google search console does not provide.)
Roger VA7LBB
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