11 Mar
2013
11 Mar
'13
1:19 p.m.
I don't understand how I can allocate anything out of 44.135.0.0/16
Since I still can allocate host out of Ampr host robot at UCSD. You need a guide for this
website
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From: "Brian Kantor" <Brian(a)ucsd.edu>
To: "AMPRNet working group" <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: [44net] Portal registrations
Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 13:20
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It's especially important for the area coordinators to get themselves
registered as such with the portal. I think that in a few months we'll
just have to consider any regions with no registered coordinator as
abandoned by their former coordinators.
Similarly with gateways: at some time in the future gateways which aren't
registered with the portal will have to be dropped from the encap file.
People with existing allocations should make sure that their own allocation
is registered with the portal, if necessary by going through the portal
allocation process. If you do this, be sure to include a note that it's
a re-registration of an existing allocation.
- Brian
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11 Mar
1:34 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
The subnet is requested by someone with a portal account, then you approve
it (or not).
E.g. someone creates a portal account, let's call him ZZ0ZZZ and he
requests
44.135.100.0/29 as a tunneled subnet.
You will get an email, login to the portal and can approve the request.
Part of setting up a portal account includes contact information, e.g.
email, so you will have a way to communicate now and in the future.
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are
not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably
going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon
as DNS is supported through the portal.
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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
<http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, lpernot(a)magma.ca <lpernot(a)magma.ca> wrote:
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I don't understand how I can allocate anything out of 44.135.0.0/16
Since I still can allocate host out of Ampr host robot at UCSD. You need
a guide for this website
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From: "Brian Kantor" <Brian(a)ucsd.edu>
To: "AMPRNet working group" <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: [44net] Portal registrations
Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 13:20
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
It's especially important for the area coordinators to get themselves
registered as such with the portal. I think that in a few months we'll
just have to consider any regions with no registered coordinator as
abandoned by their former coordinators.
Similarly with gateways: at some time in the future gateways which aren't
registered with the portal will have to be dropped from the encap file.
People with existing allocations should make sure that their own allocation
is registered with the portal, if necessary by going through the portal
allocation process. If you do this, be sure to include a note that it's
a re-registration of an existing allocation.
- Brian
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1:40 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to
let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an
instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this
purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John <k7ve(a)k7ve.org> wrote:
<snip>
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are
not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably
going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon
as DNS is supported through the portal.
1:52 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical addresses, buying
postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen. (Any
money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he
has incurred.)
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John D. Hays
K7VE
PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
<http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays>
<http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cory (NQ1E) <cory(a)nq1e.hm> wrote:
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Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to
let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an
instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this
purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John <k7ve(a)k7ve.org> wrote:
<snip>
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99%
are not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) --
probably going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot
system as soon as DNS is supported through the portal.
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2:02 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
Are you saying you need a volunteer? All I would need is a list of call
signs and I could script it into printed labels in a matter of minutes.
If they were done in bulk, they would likely be very inexpensive to mail
and I wouldn't mind donating that cost either.
Otherwise, do you believe it's a good idea? If so, how can we go about
getting the contents of the postcard and the list of call signs?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:52 AM, K7VE - John <k7ve(a)k7ve.org> wrote:
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical addresses, buying
postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen. (Any
money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he
has incurred.)
2:31 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
Just curious... Have you ever sorted 1000 pieces of Bulk Mail for mailing..I wonder how
many pieces of mail we are even talking about..
They must be segregated by Zipcode by the sender.. The postoffice is eacger to give you
direction, but the physical work is all yours..
May want to if you have never done this go to the USPostal office nearest you for hand out
with the teadious instructions and details that must be followed to prevent your mailings
being rejected.
When I LOOKL OVER THE 44.48.0.X ALLOCATION I see many call signs.,
Jerry Kutche
Electrical Supervisor
Lehigh Cement Company LLC
180 N. Meridian Road
Mitchell, IN 47446
Phone: (812) 849-2191 ext. 251
Fax: (812) 849-5007
Cell: (812) 583-0445
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Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
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3:29 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
When I LOOKL OVER THE 44.48.0.X ALLOCATION I see many call signs.,
Automate it for now and the future... If a client doesn't
ping/poke/telnet/download or whatever within 30days/3months/whatever -
purge the entry. You know - just like DHCP but at a higher level..
:)
Bill, WA7NWP
3:34 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:29:36PM -0700, Bill Vodall wrote:
Automate it for now and the future... If a client
doesn't
ping/poke/telnet/download or whatever within 30days/3months/whatever -
purge the entry.
That's one of the things the portal does, via email reminders.
- Brian
9:46 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
I think I would try farming email addresses and license history via
QRZ.COM and if they don't have a reference to an email or active
callsign simply delete the assignment and DNS. An expired call implies
a changed call or SK. Second level, assuming they passed the valid
call test, would be a ping test to the allocated IP or a post card.
But I'm not inclined to spend a lot of time or money on it.
Tedious, but it can be done.
--
Geoff Joy - ke6qh -
AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties.
geoff(a)windomeister.com
4:06 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
K7VE - John wrote:
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical
addresses, buying postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen.
(Any money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he has
incurred.)
I have considered sending mail to [callsign](a)amsat.org and maybe [callsign](a)veron.nl and
[callsign](a)vrza.nl
(two local societies that provide similar forwarding service) to attempt to contact all
those
amateurs who have registered an address in the past.
However, I decided to delay that at least until the portal is finished (and DNS is managed
through it),
so I can include full directions on how to manage the entries without open end about name
registration,
and first I will contact the managers of those services to find out what will happen to me
when
I send 2400 mail messages to addresses of which a large fraction may not even exist.
(I don't want to be blocked as a spammer)
What I already did is perform an automatic lookup against the current callsign register
and
delete all callsigns that expired. That reduced the list by 373 entries.
Rob
2:02 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40:06AM -0700, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth
sending out postcards to
let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an
instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this
purpose?
I think that's impractical; there are 46,058 A records in the DNS files
and that's a lot of postcards. For example, there are some 800+ entries
in the old DNS for John's subnet.
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I wonder if it wouldn't
be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries when
the portal DNS module is operational.
- Brian
5:08 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
I agree with Brian
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From: "Brian Kantor" <Brian(a)ucsd.edu>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40:06AM -0700, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth
sending out postcards
to
let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design
an
instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this
purpose?
I think that's impractical; there are 46,058 A records in the DNS files
and that's a lot of postcards. For example, there are some 800+ entries
in the old DNS for John's subnet.
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I wonder if it wouldn't
be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries
when
the portal DNS module is operational.
- Brian
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9:54 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:02:10 -0700, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu>
wrote:
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I
wonder if it wouldn't
be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries when
the portal DNS module is operational.
I'm working along this line in my current process now. If someone
contacts me about an allocation I direct them to the portal site and
it seems to be working out.
2:05 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
Are the co-ordinators really even checking the portal.....is this huge block of IP
addresses being administered efficiently?
Getting IP's is a huge pain......it should not be this hard........
B
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From: Cory (NQ1E) <cory(a)nq1e.hm>
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:40:06 PM
Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
_______________________________________________
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know
how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that
can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John <k7ve(a)k7ve.org> wrote:
<snip>
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are not active with
no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably going to do a 'big
flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon as DNS is supported through
the portal.
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10:01 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:05:33 -0700 (PDT), Bob Scanferla
<va3rjs(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
Are the co-ordinators really even checking the
portal.....
is this huge block of IP addresses being administered efficiently?
Getting IP's is a huge pain......it should not be this hard........
If the coordinator is registered on the portal they get an email
notification for every new IP request. It's working in my case. I've
had some new requests and some "please drop my block" requests. So far
my response time is less than 24 hours. If your coordinator has gone
silent it's up to Brian to find a new one for that subnet.
Is this as efficient as we can be? I don't know how we could do it for
less cost or faster than a volunteer process. Even coding some kind of
automation for screening call signs and valid requests would take some
serious man-hours.
--
Geoff Joy - ke6qh -
AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties.
geoff(a)windomeister.com
2:20 p.m.
New subject: Portal registrations
Coordinators: when the system-generated email arrives advising you
that you have a allocation request to deal with, you
1. log on to the portal
2. click Co-ordinators
3. click IP Requests
4. click View on the allocation request to see what it's about
5. figure out what you're going to allocate them. You can click
on IP Allocations to see what's already allocated.
6. edit the displayed request until it conforms with the allocation
you're going to give them
7. click Approve
At least, that's how I use it.
- Brian
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Rob Janssen -
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