I don't understand how I can allocate anything out of 44.135.0.0/16 Since I still can allocate host out of Ampr host robot at UCSD. You need a guide for this website
----- Reply message ----- From: "Brian Kantor" Brian@ucsd.edu To: "AMPRNet working group" 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: [44net] Portal registrations Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 13:20
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ It's especially important for the area coordinators to get themselves registered as such with the portal. I think that in a few months we'll just have to consider any regions with no registered coordinator as abandoned by their former coordinators.
Similarly with gateways: at some time in the future gateways which aren't registered with the portal will have to be dropped from the encap file.
People with existing allocations should make sure that their own allocation is registered with the portal, if necessary by going through the portal allocation process. If you do this, be sure to include a note that it's a re-registration of an existing allocation. - Brian _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
The subnet is requested by someone with a portal account, then you approve it (or not).
E.g. someone creates a portal account, let's call him ZZ0ZZZ and he requests
44.135.100.0/29 as a tunneled subnet.
You will get an email, login to the portal and can approve the request.
Part of setting up a portal account includes contact information, e.g. email, so you will have a way to communicate now and in the future.
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon as DNS is supported through the portal.
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, lpernot@magma.ca lpernot@magma.ca wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ I don't understand how I can allocate anything out of 44.135.0.0/16 Since I still can allocate host out of Ampr host robot at UCSD. You need a guide for this website
----- Reply message ----- From: "Brian Kantor" Brian@ucsd.edu To: "AMPRNet working group" 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: [44net] Portal registrations Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 13:20
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ It's especially important for the area coordinators to get themselves registered as such with the portal. I think that in a few months we'll just have to consider any regions with no registered coordinator as abandoned by their former coordinators.
Similarly with gateways: at some time in the future gateways which aren't registered with the portal will have to be dropped from the encap file.
People with existing allocations should make sure that their own allocation is registered with the portal, if necessary by going through the portal allocation process. If you do this, be sure to include a note that it's a re-registration of an existing allocation.
- Brian
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Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John k7ve@k7ve.org wrote:
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I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon as DNS is supported through the portal.
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical addresses, buying postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen. (Any money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he has incurred.)
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cory (NQ1E) cory@nq1e.hm wrote:
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Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John k7ve@k7ve.org wrote:
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I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon as DNS is supported through the portal.
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Are you saying you need a volunteer? All I would need is a list of call signs and I could script it into printed labels in a matter of minutes.
If they were done in bulk, they would likely be very inexpensive to mail and I wouldn't mind donating that cost either.
Otherwise, do you believe it's a good idea? If so, how can we go about getting the contents of the postcard and the list of call signs?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:52 AM, K7VE - John k7ve@k7ve.org wrote:
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical addresses, buying postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen. (Any money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he has incurred.)
Just curious... Have you ever sorted 1000 pieces of Bulk Mail for mailing..I wonder how many pieces of mail we are even talking about..
They must be segregated by Zipcode by the sender.. The postoffice is eacger to give you direction, but the physical work is all yours..
May want to if you have never done this go to the USPostal office nearest you for hand out with the teadious instructions and details that must be followed to prevent your mailings being rejected.
When I LOOKL OVER THE 44.48.0.X ALLOCATION I see many call signs.,
Jerry Kutche Electrical Supervisor
Lehigh Cement Company LLC 180 N. Meridian Road Mitchell, IN 47446 Phone: (812) 849-2191 ext. 251 Fax: (812) 849-5007 Cell: (812) 583-0445 jkutche@lehighcement.com www.lehighcement.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
-----Original Message----- From: 44net-bounces+jkutche=lehighcement.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu [mailto:44net-bounces+jkutche=lehighcement.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Cory (NQ1E) Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:03 PM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
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When I LOOKL OVER THE 44.48.0.X ALLOCATION I see many call signs.,
Automate it for now and the future... If a client doesn't ping/poke/telnet/download or whatever within 30days/3months/whatever - purge the entry. You know - just like DHCP but at a higher level.. :)
Bill, WA7NWP
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:29:36PM -0700, Bill Vodall wrote:
Automate it for now and the future... If a client doesn't ping/poke/telnet/download or whatever within 30days/3months/whatever - purge the entry.
That's one of the things the portal does, via email reminders. - Brian
I think I would try farming email addresses and license history via QRZ.COM and if they don't have a reference to an email or active callsign simply delete the assignment and DNS. An expired call implies a changed call or SK. Second level, assuming they passed the valid call test, would be a ping test to the allocated IP or a post card. But I'm not inclined to spend a lot of time or money on it.
Tedious, but it can be done.
K7VE - John wrote:
This is a volunteer effort -- looking up physical addresses, buying postage, and mailing is just not something that is going to happen. (Any money for postage should be donated to Brian's account for the expenses he has incurred.)
I have considered sending mail to [callsign]@amsat.org and maybe [callsign]@veron.nl and [callsign]@vrza.nl (two local societies that provide similar forwarding service) to attempt to contact all those amateurs who have registered an address in the past.
However, I decided to delay that at least until the portal is finished (and DNS is managed through it), so I can include full directions on how to manage the entries without open end about name registration, and first I will contact the managers of those services to find out what will happen to me when I send 2400 mail messages to addresses of which a large fraction may not even exist. (I don't want to be blocked as a spammer)
What I already did is perform an automatic lookup against the current callsign register and delete all callsigns that expired. That reduced the list by 373 entries.
Rob
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40:06AM -0700, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
I think that's impractical; there are 46,058 A records in the DNS files and that's a lot of postcards. For example, there are some 800+ entries in the old DNS for John's subnet.
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries when the portal DNS module is operational. - Brian
I agree with Brian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kantor" Brian@ucsd.edu To: "AMPRNet working group" 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:40:06AM -0700, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
I think that's impractical; there are 46,058 A records in the DNS files and that's a lot of postcards. For example, there are some 800+ entries in the old DNS for John's subnet.
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries when the portal DNS module is operational.
- Brian
44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:02:10 -0700, Brian Kantor Brian@ucsd.edu wrote:
Frankly, with AMPRNet activity as low as it is, I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to simply have every active user re-register their DNS entries when the portal DNS module is operational.
I'm working along this line in my current process now. If someone contacts me about an allocation I direct them to the portal site and it seems to be working out.
Are the co-ordinators really even checking the portal.....is this huge block of IP addresses being administered efficiently?
Getting IP's is a huge pain......it should not be this hard........
B
________________________________ From: Cory (NQ1E) cory@nq1e.hm To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:40:06 PM Subject: Re: [44net] Portal registrations
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________
Do you at least have call signs? It may be worth sending out postcards to let them know how to keep their allocations. Perhaps someone can design an instructional postcard that can be used by all coordinators for this purpose?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM, K7VE - John k7ve@k7ve.org wrote:
<snip>
I have several hundred allocations under the old robot system, and 99% are not active with no way to contact (including silent keys, btw) -- probably going to do a 'big flush', for the /16 I admin, on the robot system as soon as DNS is supported through the portal.
_________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net http://www.ampr.org/donate.html
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:05:33 -0700 (PDT), Bob Scanferla va3rjs@yahoo.ca wrote:
Are the co-ordinators really even checking the portal..... is this huge block of IP addresses being administered efficiently?
Getting IP's is a huge pain......it should not be this hard........
If the coordinator is registered on the portal they get an email notification for every new IP request. It's working in my case. I've had some new requests and some "please drop my block" requests. So far my response time is less than 24 hours. If your coordinator has gone silent it's up to Brian to find a new one for that subnet.
Is this as efficient as we can be? I don't know how we could do it for less cost or faster than a volunteer process. Even coding some kind of automation for screening call signs and valid requests would take some serious man-hours.
Coordinators: when the system-generated email arrives advising you that you have a allocation request to deal with, you
1. log on to the portal
2. click Co-ordinators
3. click IP Requests
4. click View on the allocation request to see what it's about
5. figure out what you're going to allocate them. You can click on IP Allocations to see what's already allocated.
6. edit the displayed request until it conforms with the allocation you're going to give them
7. click Approve
At least, that's how I use it. - Brian
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