As we still did not get that information, I checked the DNS zone and there are only two TXT records for google site verification. One is for va4wan.ampr.org and their site is indexed by Google, no problem there. You can lookup site:va4wan.ampr.org to confirm that. (again: the "site:" in that is important, don't omit it) The other is for separs.ampr.org and Google does not yet know about them. So probably he is discussing that. It appears to work OK when visited inside and outside of AMPRnet and its robots.txt also appears OK. I think it is just external linking that is required. Try to get a link to your site from the city website where it had an information page before. Make links from your local club, from private sites of your members, etc. Then Google becomes more convinced that this is a useful site that people may want to visit, rather than some scam that wants to have quick visitors and then disappear. (of which they probably get thousands a day submitted) And of course you need patience. It will not happen overnight. We all know that it is difficult to communicate with them and that they do what they themselves consider appropriate. You will have to live with that, we all do. Rob