Greetings Brian (et al),
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Brian Kantor wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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According to records on the portal, the following 120 (of 275 total)
entries in the gateways list are unclaimed - that is, no one has come
forward to take ownership of the entry. They therefore appear to be
inactive.
I propose we mark these as no longer in service. That will have the
effect of no longer including them in the encap list. Eventually
we'll delete them from the database if they're not reactivated.
If a gateway that is still valid is listed below, contact me or Chris
to get it assigned to the proper registered owner.
- Brian
Hold on there gang! I suspect that many of those gateways are still
operational but haven't been able to perform any updates because the
Portal is *STILL* quite broken - or at least it is for some of us.
Back in March of this year I was seeing notices to my email (as the IP
Address Coordinator for Michigan 44.102/16) for NEW gateway request, but
had absolutely NO control over ANY OTHER gateway within the allocation
that I am responsible for (44.102/16). I could not edit or correct them.
I could not delete them and recreate a new record for them. I couldn't
even manage my own gateway (hamgate.washtenaw) as the blasted database
said it wasn't assigned to me! Well that blows! I'm listed as the
coordinator for 44.102/16, but can't DO anything to manage that address
space.
Following a request that Chris had posted around this same timeframe, I
emailed him with some 17 gateway updates that he "said" he would edit by
hand until the Portal got fixed. Well, THAT never happened. Subsequent
emails to Chris went unanswered.... I figure it's a volunteer driven
network and he has a life like the rest of us... so I waited...
I log into the Portal every month or so and continue to see the
following under "Co-Ordinators":
IP Requests --- You currently have no outstanding requests.
DNS Requests --- You currently have no outstanding requests.
Allocations --- No networks found
You have no pending requests.
Yet, under "Gateways / Manage" it shows requests that I had submitted
that just sit there. The Portal has NEVER emailed me to let me know that
they are pending nor have I been able to 'Okay' any of them for addition
into the ENCAP database.
Gateway Encap Actions
24.247.165.49 IPIP Edit | Del
66.129.40.19 IPIP Edit | Del
68.188.234.106 IPIP Edit | Del
216.86.85.144 IPIP Edit | Del
216.245.225.3 IPIP Edit | Del
But wait! It gets worse!
So in July of this year I had a gateway operator here in Michigan
create an account on the Portal, and then submit his data so that the
coordinator (me) could be alerted to the request and Okay it for inclusion
in the database. NO email was ever received from the Portal regarding the
pending request, nor did it ever show up as a pending request under any of
the Portal's 'Co-Ordinator' tools!!!! So where did the request go????
I emailed Chris again about the problem and noted that other
coordinators were mentioning the same kind of problem on this mailing
list. Chris never responded nor did the problem ever get fixed or
addressed.
This suck folks!!! This new and improved tool was SUPPOSED to make
things easier, and all it has accomplished from my perspective is that we
have what "looks" like a cool tool, but it fails to work for us in any way
shape or form.
I don't think I am alone in these problems with the Portal. Other
coordinators have spoken up about these issues. Either fix the Portal or
scrap it and go back to the email/procmail tools that Jim Fuller used in
the past. At least THOSE tools worked dependably for over 20 years.
The following nodes are part of the Michigan AMPRnet network, and if I
can gain access as the coordinator to manage these addresses I can correct
their public IP addresses and get on with managing the network. In the
meantime, I have to hand edit our own ENCAP.TXT file here in Michigan and
distribute it myself. We really would like things to work correctly and
link back in with the rest of the worldwide AMPRnet :)
66.112.51.126 hamgate.leelanau
67.108.91.190 hamgate.macomb
68.188.234.106 hamgate.alcona
74.85.194.5 hamgate.midland
96.35.76.41 hamgate.crawford (.38)
198.108.247.220 hamgate.mackinac
207.179.123.166 hamgate.eaton
216.86.85.144 hamgate.washtenaw
216.144.222.182 hamgate.wayne49
(there are a LOT more but these were the ones I could identify quickly)
Thank You,
--- Jay Nugent WB8TKL
Michigan AMPRnet IP Address Coordinator
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