21 Jan
2020
21 Jan
'20
7:13 a.m.
Hi there
Im trying to debug why one of our hams dont have tunnel up an running (or actually why
one day it stopped working for him )
I suspect there are a routing problem from UCSD side to his ISP
I wrote Brian mail asking to login to the UCSD HAM router and make a trace route to this
local ham so i can track the problem
Who can help me now ? is there anyone that have the ability to login and make trace
route maybe Chris ? or any other solution ?
The MikroTik Router he have declare that no route to UCSD and the tunnel status is down
but from the router side ping can be done to UCSD ham router
Is there any chance to do a web interface on UCSD Router that will give the option to
the users to make trace route from there to a certain destination using the 44 and the
non 44 interface ?
something like this
https://ping.eu/traceroute/
Thans forware for any assistance
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
21 Jan
21 Jan
12:30 p.m.
This sounds like a firewall sending icmp host unreachable. Is protocol 4
allowed?
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 2:16 AM R P via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi there
Im trying to debug why one of our hams dont have tunnel up an running (or
actually why one day it stopped working for him )
I suspect there are a routing problem from UCSD side to his ISP
I wrote Brian mail asking to login to the UCSD HAM router and make a trace
route to this local ham so i can track the problem
Who can help me now ? is there anyone that have the ability to login and
make trace route maybe Chris ? or any other solution ?
The MikroTik Router he have declare that no route to UCSD and the tunnel
status is down but from the router side ping can be done to UCSD ham
router
Is there any chance to do a web interface on UCSD Router that will give
the option to the users to make trace route from there to a certain
destination using the 44 and the non 44 interface ?
something like this
https://ping.eu/traceroute/
Thans forware for any assistance
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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3:18 p.m.
Good idea. I think this would be useful too.
On 1/20/2020 11:13 PM, R P via 44Net wrote:
Is there any chance to do a web interface on UCSD
Router that will give the option to the users to make trace route from there to a
certain destination using the 44 and the non 44 interface ?
something like this
https://ping.eu/traceroute/
Thans forware for any assistance
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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10:33 p.m.
Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
You didn't share any details on the system in question, so I can't
really look up any thing for you.
However I did look at the errors log at:
https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt
Lots of errors
dropped: non-44 inner source address from:
177.143.142.216
213.91.190.32
68.36.144.45
71.42.34.198
If you or anyone else recognizes those as your public IP's, you should
look at your setup
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:15 AM R P via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi there
Im trying to debug why one of our hams dont have tunnel up an running (or actually why
one day it stopped working for him )
I suspect there are a routing problem from UCSD side to his ISP
I wrote Brian mail asking to login to the UCSD HAM router and make a trace route to this
local ham so i can track the problem
Who can help me now ? is there anyone that have the ability to login and make trace
route maybe Chris ? or any other solution ?
The MikroTik Router he have declare that no route to UCSD and the tunnel status is down
but from the router side ping can be done to UCSD ham router
Is there any chance to do a web interface on UCSD Router that will give the option to
the users to make trace route from there to a certain destination using the 44 and the
non 44 interface ?
something like this
https://ping.eu/traceroute/
Thans forware for any assistance
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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22 Jan
22 Jan
4:18 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:36 PM Steve L via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
That does sound useful. I downloaded and searched all the available
mailman archives and very little clues as to the login. I guess if we
never had one then we never will, as it is not tied to current portal?
I joined the portal sometime 2013 but did not request allocation or
join the list until late 2017.
23 Jan
23 Jan
4:59 p.m.
Quick question on these stat pages: That web page asks for:
Use your gateway owner username and password
What username/password is this? Is this the portal username/password?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/21/2020 02:33 PM, Steve L via 44Net wrote:
Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
You didn't share any details on the system in question, so I can't
really look up any thing for you.
However I did look at the errors log at:
https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt
Lots of errors
dropped: non-44 inner source address from:
177.143.142.216
213.91.190.32
68.36.144.45
71.42.34.198
If you or anyone else recognizes those as your public IP's, you should
look at your setup
5:39 p.m.
Hi all
Steve : I have used the router stats and it seem that one way is not working i dont
know what is outgoing and incomming interface at UCSD mean i wrote brian for clarification
to understand what side of the tunnel dont operate
John : i will contact you off list to get the trace route
as for the gateway Ip im willing to share it but didnt thought that it interested all
however this is the network i talk about
44.138.0.8 / 29 4X5MG AMPRNET Test
I can provide the non ampr ip although it can extracted from the portal the Router listen
there on the commercial IP and supposed to answer pings
I can also provide Traceroute from the router there to anywhere needed
Regards
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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Ranch via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Cc: David Ranch <amprgw(a)trinnet.net>
Subject: Re: [44net] Need TraceRoute from UCSD router
Quick question on these stat pages: That web page asks for:
Use your gateway owner username and password
What username/password is this? Is this the portal username/password?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/21/2020 02:33 PM, Steve L via 44Net wrote:
Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
You didn't share any details on the system in question, so I can't
really look up any thing for you.
However I did look at the errors log at:
https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt
Lots of errors
dropped: non-44 inner source address from:
177.143.142.216
213.91.190.32
68.36.144.45
71.42.34.198
If you or anyone else recognizes those as your public IP's, you should
look at your setup
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25 Jan
25 Jan
12:28 a.m.
Ronen,
Yes the outside address 31.44.137.3 does respond to pings.
And I don't see that address in any of the error logs, so its not
bouncing the periodic ipip rip packets, so it seems to be accepting
ipip.
But you are correct, I can't get a ping reply to 44.138.0.8 from my
ampr ip or from the internet. So I'd say things are reaching the
commercial ip of your gateway, but something is misconfigured after
that point.
73, Steve, KB9MWR
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:41 AM R P via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi all
Steve : I have used the router stats and it seem that one way is not working i dont
know what is outgoing and incomming interface at UCSD mean i wrote brian for clarification
to understand what side of the tunnel dont operate
John : i will contact you off list to get the trace route
as for the gateway Ip im willing to share it but didnt thought that it interested all
however this is the network i talk about
44.138.0.8 / 29 4X5MG AMPRNET Test
I can provide the non ampr ip although it can extracted from the portal the Router
listen there on the commercial IP and supposed to answer pings
I can also provide Traceroute from the router there to anywhere needed
Regards
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
________________________________
From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)mailman.ampr.org> on behalf of David
Ranch via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Cc: David Ranch <amprgw(a)trinnet.net>
Subject: Re: [44net] Need TraceRoute from UCSD router
Quick question on these stat pages: That web page asks for:
Use your gateway owner username and password
What username/password is this? Is this the portal username/password?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/21/2020 02:33 PM, Steve L via 44Net wrote:
Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
You didn't share any details on the system in question, so I can't
really look up any thing for you.
However I did look at the errors log at:
https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt
Lots of errors
dropped: non-44 inner source address from:
177.143.142.216
213.91.190.32
68.36.144.45
71.42.34.198
If you or anyone else recognizes those as your public IP's, you should
look at your setup
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28 Jan
28 Jan
7:23 a.m.
Steve
May you be kind and make a traceroute from UCSD Router to the Commercial IP of this
gateway to see the nodes it passes throug ?
Indeed it is Not DNS Problem i know
I suspect that ICMP mabe pass to it but other protocoles as IPIP not from the ISP side
Thanks Forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
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From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)mailman.ampr.org> on behalf of Steve L
via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 4:28 PM
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Cc: Steve L <kb9mwr(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [44net] Need TraceRoute from UCSD router
Ronen,
Yes the outside address 31.44.137.3 does respond to pings.
And I don't see that address in any of the error logs, so its not
bouncing the periodic ipip rip packets, so it seems to be accepting
ipip.
But you are correct, I can't get a ping reply to 44.138.0.8 from my
ampr ip or from the internet. So I'd say things are reaching the
commercial ip of your gateway, but something is misconfigured after
that point.
73, Steve, KB9MWR
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:41 AM R P via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi all
Steve : I have used the router stats and it seem that one way is not working i dont
know what is outgoing and incomming interface at UCSD mean i wrote brian for clarification
to understand what side of the tunnel dont operate
John : i will contact you off list to get the trace route
as for the gateway Ip im willing to share it but didnt thought that it interested all
however this is the network i talk about
44.138.0.8 / 29 4X5MG AMPRNET Test
I can provide the non ampr ip although it can extracted from the portal the Router
listen there on the commercial IP and supposed to answer pings
I can also provide Traceroute from the router there to anywhere needed
Regards
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
________________________________
From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)mailman.ampr.org> on behalf of David
Ranch via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
Cc: David Ranch <amprgw(a)trinnet.net>
Subject: Re: [44net] Need TraceRoute from UCSD router
Quick question on these stat pages: That web page asks for:
Use your gateway owner username and password
What username/password is this? Is this the portal username/password?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/21/2020 02:33 PM, Steve L via 44Net wrote:
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Ronen,
Did you forget about the stats page? It can provide insight..
https://gw.ampr.org/private/
You didn't share any details on the system in question, so I can't
really look up any thing for you.
However I did look at the errors log at:
https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt
Lots of errors
dropped: non-44 inner source address from:
177.143.142.216
213.91.190.32
68.36.144.45
71.42.34.198
If you or anyone else recognizes those as your public IP's, you should
look at your setup
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44Net(a)mailman.ampr.org
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23 Jan
23 Jan
10:03 p.m.
Hello David.
Almost three years ago I received from Brian Kantor belows suggestion:
"The one you use for downloading the encap.txt file
or for accessing the private area on gw.ampr.org ..."
HTH...
Best regards.
--
Tom - SP2L
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But it is more important to be nice!
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W dniu 23.01.2020 o 17:59, David Ranch via 44Net pisze:
Quick question on these stat pages: That web page asks for:
Use your gateway owner username and password
What username/password is this? Is this the portal username/password?
--David
KI6ZHD
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