26 Dec
2015
26 Dec
'15
5:28 p.m.
As Brian said there is no central authority. The formula is based off
your MAC address.
From memory it simply does HEX to decimal conversion
for each of the
last 3 octets.
I found this:
http://bloodhound.aredn.org/products/AREDN/wiki/TechRef/GUI/admin/PerlUI_IP…
The ham meshnet folks use net 10 internally; they
assign the addresses
by a formula. They don't have a central IP authority. I don't recall
the exact formula and whether it's based on an encoding of the callsign
or the location of the station, but it was explained in a paper they published
in a past TAPR DCC, either 2013 or 2014.
- Brian
26 Dec
26 Dec
6:54 p.m.
New subject: Ham Class network
Maybe the robot managed to get out of control...
Merry Christmas,
Don - ve3zda
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As Brian said there is no central authority. The formula is based off
your MAC address.
From memory it simply does HEX to decimal conversion for each of the
last 3 octets.
I found this:
http://bloodhound.aredn.org/products/AREDN/wiki/TechRef/GUI/admin/PerlUI_IP…
The ham meshnet folks use net 10 internally; they
assign the addresses
by a formula. They don't have a central IP authority. I don't recall
the exact formula and whether it's based on an encoding of the callsign
or the location of the station, but it was explained in a paper they
published
in a past TAPR DCC, either 2013 or 2014.
- Brian
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New subject: Using Cisco Router as a gateway ?
Hi there
I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the AMPRNET
I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0
ip unnumbered Ethernet0
no ip directed-broadcast
tunnel source Ethernet0
tunnel destination 132.239.255.131
tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember
changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the
Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use
today?)
and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the default
isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12
Please advice
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New subject: Using Cisco Router as a gateway ?
Protocol 4 is what you want and turn any Cisco unique features off.
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Hi there
I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the AMPRNET
I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0
ip unnumbered Ethernet0
no ip directed-broadcast
tunnel source Ethernet0
tunnel destination 132.239.255.131
tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember changing the PID
from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the Router same as what we use now ?
(and can someone remind me what we use today?)
and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the default isnt what we
use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12
Please advice
Thanks Forward
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New subject: Using Cisco Router as a gateway ?
Ip ip tunnel on cisco is fairly straitforward. If you know your host
address spaces on both sides, I suggest you build an access control list to
limit flooding and scanning as well as groom the routing table for the
appropriate tunnel routes.
Example:
Ip route 44.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 tunnel0
Ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 loopback0 (prevents internet access by black
holing requests to loopback) unless you want internet access for clients.
I suggest using an open source content filter such as pfsense or the like
to prevent things like https as encryption is a bad idea if laws prohibit
as well as prevent access to everything but an approved white list of sites.
Also cisco can do ax25 over ip as well and can connect to a modem if you
have a spare serial interface.
That's what we do here in LA.
Let me know if you need an ios update as I work for an all cisco gold
partner and may have it already.
Best Regards,
Elias Basse
KD5JFE
Louisiana AMPRNET ip coordinator.
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Hi there
I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the
AMPRNET
I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0
ip unnumbered Ethernet0
no ip directed-broadcast
tunnel source Ethernet0
tunnel destination 132.239.255.131
tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember
changing the
PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the
Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use
today?)
and is there any command that allow me to change the
PID if the
default isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12
Please advice
Thanks Forward
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27 Dec
6:20 a.m.
New subject: Using Cisco Router as a gateway ?
If you need more 'inside help' with Cisco products - my $WORK is Cisco.
I can't release internal code (career limiting move!), but I can ask
senior internal engineers about issues and possibly get answers for
difficult-to-answer questions.
I'm in IT - I don't sell product, I support some of the people who do. :-)
- Richard, VE7CVS
On 12/26/15 3:46 PM, Elias Basse wrote:
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> _______________________________________________
> Ip ip tunnel on cisco is fairly straitforward. If you know your host
> address spaces on both sides, I suggest you build an access control list to
> limit flooding and scanning as well as groom the routing table for the
> appropriate tunnel routes.
>
> Example:
> Ip route 44.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 tunnel0
> Ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 loopback0 (prevents internet access by black
> holing requests to loopback) unless you want internet access for clients.
>
> I suggest using an open source content filter such as pfsense or the like
> to prevent things like https as encryption is a bad idea if laws prohibit
> as well as prevent access to everything but an approved white list of sites.
>
> Also cisco can do ax25 over ip as well and can connect to a modem if you
> have a spare serial interface.
>
> That's what we do here in LA.
>
> Let me know if you need an ios update as I work for an all cisco gold
> partner and may have it already.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Elias Basse
> KD5JFE
> Louisiana AMPRNET ip coordinator.
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> Protocol 4 is what you want and turn any Cisco unique features off.
>
> Sent from my handheld computer
>
>
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Drorap <drorap(a)netvision.net.il> wrote:
>>
>> (Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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>> Hi there
>> I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the
> AMPRNET
>> I put in the command the following lines
>>
>> interface Tunnel0
>> ip unnumbered Ethernet0
>> no ip directed-broadcast
>> tunnel source Ethernet0
>> tunnel destination 132.239.255.131
>> tunnel mode ipip
>>
>> My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember
> changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the
> Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use
> today?)
>> and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the
> default isnt what we use ?
>> If needed the IOS is version 12
>> Please advice
>> Thanks Forward
>> Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
>> http://www.ronen.org
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8:05 p.m.
New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Hi there
i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble to
replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config)
the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA
Currently all my PCs are PCI
i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell or 3
Com )
I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA)
Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ?
If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ?
Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it for
gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the linux but
certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS )
Please advice
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New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Hello Ronen
I still have floppy content around for 3com Ether ver 5.1 Etherlink pCI
the packer driver is two files
3c90xpd.com
and paket.txt
combined size 50kb
if interested
Paul g4apl gb7cip
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Hi there
i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble
to replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config)
the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA
Currently all my PCs are PCI
i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell
or 3 Com )
I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA)
Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ?
If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ?
Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it
for gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the
linux but certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS )
Please advice
Thanks Forward
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28 Dec
7:55 p.m.
New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Hi Paul
I have found the Original files of my gateway that was active 15 years
ago
It tern out it used a 3c905 PCI cards (i have found the original cards in
the shack )
I even found a Packet driver for the on board lan card of my PC
I have installed the Jnos with the old original CFG files and changed only
the IP adresses of ampr.org (what used to be that time mirrorshades) and
the internet ip on my current network and the software run without
errors
It is still not connected to the network because i still have no allocation
of the 44 network IP and therefore no route of 44.138 adress to the
gateway yet
but its a good start
Now next step is to run it under windows (XP)
Has any one run a Gateway (jnos or any other software) under windows XP
?
i dont want to have a dedicated PC running only dos where i can have a pc
running windows and beside dealing with routing can do also other instances
(such as running SDR software or winpkt etc ...
please advice
Thanks forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [44net] Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
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Hello Ronen
I still have floppy content around for 3com Ether ver 5.1 Etherlink pCI
the packer driver is two files
3c90xpd.com
and paket.txt
combined size 50kb
if interested
Paul g4apl gb7cip
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Hi there
i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble to
replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config)
the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA
Currently all my PCs are PCI
i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell or
3 Com )
I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA)
Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ?
If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ?
Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it
for gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the linux
but certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS )
Please advice
Thanks Forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Hello Ronen
It's good to read that you are making progress on both fronts jnos/dos
and Cisco router. Thanks for the feedback.
73 de Paul g4apl gb7cip
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29 Dec
29 Dec
12:26 a.m.
New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Have you looked at the Windows 32 bit version of JNOS on Maiko's website?
On Mon, December 28, 2015 2:55 pm, Drorap wrote:
Now next step is to run it under
windows (XP) Has any one run a Gateway (jnos or any other software) under
windows XP ?
i dont want to have a dedicated PC running only dos where i can have a pc
running windows and beside dealing with routing can do also other instances
(such as running SDR software or winpkt etc ...
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8:14 p.m.
New subject: Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
Have you looked at the Windows 32 bit version of JNOS
on Maiko's website?
I have this software installed on two computers and it cant ping anywhere
not to the real netcard and not to any network hosts inside the lan
Beside i dont see any ENCAP interface so i suspect that it cant handle IPIP
and need any real gateway machine to catch the 44 net in front of it
If there is any one that doing a gateway with Windows system (prefered
windows XP ) I would be greatefull for any assistance from him
73's
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
NB is there abyone that can point me to a good CISCO CLI command explain
site (im intrested specially in the tunneling commands such as tunnel
source and tunnel mode ) i have checked the CISCO Side and couldnt find
te page (I used to have CISCO CD long ago and it content was also
available on the site but i cant find the page there)
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New subject: How to update the AMPR.ORG DNS records ?
Hi there
How do I update the AMPR.ORG DNS records ?
The Portal write that the web page that there is a test and records will
not apear in the real AMPR.ORG zone file
and the email system i used to sent updates to reply with error
Please advice
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