As Brian said there is no central authority. The formula is based off your MAC address.
From memory it simply does HEX to decimal conversion for each of the
last 3 octets.
I found this: http://bloodhound.aredn.org/products/AREDN/wiki/TechRef/GUI/admin/PerlUI_IP_...
The ham meshnet folks use net 10 internally; they assign the addresses by a formula. They don't have a central IP authority. I don't recall the exact formula and whether it's based on an encoding of the callsign or the location of the station, but it was explained in a paper they published in a past TAPR DCC, either 2013 or 2014.
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On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Steve L kb9mwr@gmail.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ As Brian said there is no central authority. The formula is based off your MAC address. From memory it simply does HEX to decimal conversion for each of the last 3 octets.
I found this:
http://bloodhound.aredn.org/products/AREDN/wiki/TechRef/GUI/admin/PerlUI_IP_...
The ham meshnet folks use net 10 internally; they assign the addresses by a formula. They don't have a central IP authority. I don't recall the exact formula and whether it's based on an encoding of the callsign or the location of the station, but it was explained in a paper they
published
in a past TAPR DCC, either 2013 or 2014.
- Brian
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Hi there I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the AMPRNET I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 no ip directed-broadcast tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 132.239.255.131 tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use today?) and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the default isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12 Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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Protocol 4 is what you want and turn any Cisco unique features off.
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(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi there I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the AMPRNET I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 no ip directed-broadcast tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 132.239.255.131 tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use today?) and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the default isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12 Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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Ip ip tunnel on cisco is fairly straitforward. If you know your host address spaces on both sides, I suggest you build an access control list to limit flooding and scanning as well as groom the routing table for the appropriate tunnel routes.
Example: Ip route 44.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 tunnel0 Ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 loopback0 (prevents internet access by black holing requests to loopback) unless you want internet access for clients.
I suggest using an open source content filter such as pfsense or the like to prevent things like https as encryption is a bad idea if laws prohibit as well as prevent access to everything but an approved white list of sites.
Also cisco can do ax25 over ip as well and can connect to a modem if you have a spare serial interface.
That's what we do here in LA.
Let me know if you need an ios update as I work for an all cisco gold partner and may have it already.
Best Regards,
Elias Basse KD5JFE Louisiana AMPRNET ip coordinator. (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Protocol 4 is what you want and turn any Cisco unique features off.
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On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Drorap drorap@netvision.net.il wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi there I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the
AMPRNET
I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 no ip directed-broadcast tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 132.239.255.131 tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember
changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use today?)
and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the
default isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12 Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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On 12/26/15 3:46 PM, Elias Basse wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ip ip tunnel on cisco is fairly straitforward. If you know your host address spaces on both sides, I suggest you build an access control list to limit flooding and scanning as well as groom the routing table for the appropriate tunnel routes.
Example: Ip route 44.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 tunnel0 Ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 loopback0 (prevents internet access by black holing requests to loopback) unless you want internet access for clients.
I suggest using an open source content filter such as pfsense or the like to prevent things like https as encryption is a bad idea if laws prohibit as well as prevent access to everything but an approved white list of sites.
Also cisco can do ax25 over ip as well and can connect to a modem if you have a spare serial interface.
That's what we do here in LA.
Let me know if you need an ios update as I work for an all cisco gold partner and may have it already.
Best Regards,
Elias Basse KD5JFE Louisiana AMPRNET ip coordinator. (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Protocol 4 is what you want and turn any Cisco unique features off.
Sent from my handheld computer
On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Drorap drorap@netvision.net.il wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi there I have started to config a Cisco rouer to serve as a gateway for the
AMPRNET
I put in the command the following lines
interface Tunnel0 ip unnumbered Ethernet0 no ip directed-broadcast tunnel source Ethernet0 tunnel destination 132.239.255.131 tunnel mode ipip
My question is: Is the IPIP is ame as the AMPRNET do ? (i remember
changing the PID from 4 to 94 (or mabe opposite) ) so is the PID of the Router same as what we use now ? (and can someone remind me what we use today?)
and is there any command that allow me to change the PID if the
default isnt what we use ?
If needed the IOS is version 12 Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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Hi there i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble to replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config) the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA Currently all my PCs are PCI i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell or 3 Com ) I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA) Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ? If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ? Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it for gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the linux but certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS ) Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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Hello Ronen
I still have floppy content around for 3com Ether ver 5.1 Etherlink pCI the packer driver is two files 3c90xpd.com and paket.txt combined size 50kb if interested Paul g4apl gb7cip
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(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi there i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble to replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config) the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA Currently all my PCs are PCI i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell or 3 Com ) I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA) Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ? If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ? Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it for gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the linux but certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS ) Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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Hi Paul I have found the Original files of my gateway that was active 15 years ago It tern out it used a 3c905 PCI cards (i have found the original cards in the shack ) I even found a Packet driver for the on board lan card of my PC I have installed the Jnos with the old original CFG files and changed only the IP adresses of ampr.org (what used to be that time mirrorshades) and the internet ip on my current network and the software run without errors It is still not connected to the network because i still have no allocation of the 44 network IP and therefore no route of 44.138 adress to the gateway yet but its a good start Now next step is to run it under windows (XP) Has any one run a Gateway (jnos or any other software) under windows XP ? i dont want to have a dedicated PC running only dos where i can have a pc running windows and beside dealing with routing can do also other instances (such as running SDR software or winpkt etc ... please advice Thanks forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lewis" paul@skywaves.demon.co.uk To: "AMPRNet working group" 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [44net] Packet driver fo Current net cards ?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hello Ronen
I still have floppy content around for 3com Ether ver 5.1 Etherlink pCI the packer driver is two files 3c90xpd.com and paket.txt combined size 50kb if interested Paul g4apl gb7cip
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(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi there i want to re alive a gateway running Jnos DOS (untill i will be eble to replace it with the Cisco router im trying to config) the old gateway i had used to be a PC with ISA Currently all my PCs are PCI i need a Packet driver for a well known PCI card (prefered intell or 3 Com ) I used to have Packet driver for 3C905 (ISA) Can i find any packet drivers for the PCI cards ? If not is there any solution to run JNOS DOS with netcard ? Im not a Software person so Suggestions to install linux and config it for gateway are not practical for me (i can probebly install the linux but certianly not add the Gateway Part (IPIP and JNOS ) Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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It's good to read that you are making progress on both fronts jnos/dos and Cisco router. Thanks for the feedback. 73 de Paul g4apl gb7cip
Have you looked at the Windows 32 bit version of JNOS on Maiko's website?
On Mon, December 28, 2015 2:55 pm, Drorap wrote:
Now next step is to run it under windows (XP) Has any one run a Gateway (jnos or any other software) under windows XP ? i dont want to have a dedicated PC running only dos where i can have a pc running windows and beside dealing with routing can do also other instances (such as running SDR software or winpkt etc ... please advice Thanks forward
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Have you looked at the Windows 32 bit version of JNOS on Maiko's website?
I have this software installed on two computers and it cant ping anywhere not to the real netcard and not to any network hosts inside the lan Beside i dont see any ENCAP interface so i suspect that it cant handle IPIP and need any real gateway machine to catch the 44 net in front of it If there is any one that doing a gateway with Windows system (prefered windows XP ) I would be greatefull for any assistance from him 73's Ronen - 4Z4ZQ NB is there abyone that can point me to a good CISCO CLI command explain site (im intrested specially in the tunneling commands such as tunnel source and tunnel mode ) i have checked the CISCO Side and couldnt find te page (I used to have CISCO CD long ago and it content was also available on the site but i cant find the page there)
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Hi there How do I update the AMPR.ORG DNS records ? The Portal write that the web page that there is a test and records will not apear in the real AMPR.ORG zone file and the email system i used to sent updates to reply with error Please advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org
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