6 Sep
6 Sep
4:12 p.m.
This one will not work. Name is too common. Causes issues.
Lets go with this one..
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=AmprNET_Net44
-----Original Message-----
From: 44Net
[mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:07 PM
To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: [44net] New Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=net44
Easy enough..
4:19 p.m.
"Jerry" said:
This one will not work. Name is too common. Causes
issues.
Lets go with this one..
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=AmprNET_Net44
No.Facebook.Not.Ever
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4:25 p.m.
Ok its out if here.. Sorry guys.. Thanks Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: 44Net
[mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Brian Kantor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:23 PM
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [44net] New Facebook Group
No, I agree, please no Facebook. I despise it.
- Brian
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 03:19:22PM -0500, Steve K0STK wrote:
No.Facebook.Not.Ever
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4:29 p.m.
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 1:22:37 PM PDT Brian Kantor wrote:
No, I agree, please no Facebook. I despise it.
- Brian
Thank You
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It's more like a jar of jalapenos.
What you do today is likely to come back and burn you in the butt tomorrow.
6:45 p.m.
+1
On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 13:22 -0700, Brian Kantor wrote:
No, I agree, please no Facebook. I despise it.
deFace-book, InstaGrudge, etc., all horrible entities. Even Yahoo which
not only is going away with the take over by Vz, but the platform is a
very insecure java based platform to which we've seen massive numbers of
accounts cracked.
Yahoo is changing to a revamped service focusing on news feeds called
Oath. With that many of the current "free" services I hear are slated to
vanish such as their yahoo groups, yahoo answers, yahoo messenger, and
possibly others.
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4:19 p.m.
Brian or anyone thinks Facebook is a bad Idea I will delete the new group.
-----Original Message-----
From: 44Net
[mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:12 PM
To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [44net] New Facebook Group
This one will not work. Name is too common. Causes issues.
Lets go with this one..
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=AmprNET_Net44
-----Original Message-----
From: 44Net
[mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:07 PM
To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: [44net] New Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=net44
Easy enough..
4:23 p.m.
I like the idea as their groups work well Brian your old skool man :(
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Jerry <n9lya(a)uronode.n9lya.ampr.org> wrote:
> Brian or anyone thinks Facebook is a bad Idea I will delete the new group.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 44Net
> [mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:12 PM
> To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: Re: [44net] New Facebook Group
>
> This one will not work. Name is too common. Causes issues.
>
> Lets go with this one..
> https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=AmprNET_Net44
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 44Net
> [mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:07 PM
> To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [44net] New Facebook Group
>
> https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=net44
>
>
>
> Easy enough..
>
>
10 Sep
10 Sep
9:24 p.m.
I've put up a new group on Facebook, called "AmprNet." The title is
short and to the point, but doesn't call out our IPv4 history.
Feel free to join and comment.
73,
Bill W4EWH
On 9/6/2017 4:12 PM, Jerry wrote:
> This one will not work. Name is too common. Causes issues.
>
> Lets go with this one..
> https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=AmprNET_Net44
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 44Net
> [mailto:44net-bounces+n9lya=uronode.n9lya.ampr.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:07 PM
> To: 'AMPRNet working group' <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [44net] New Facebook Group
>
> https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=net44
>
>
>
> Easy enough..
>
>
10:46 p.m.
Brian,
It is a much cleaner discussion format than email.
Lin
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
I think this was a bad idea.
- Brian
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 09:24:38PM -0400, Bill Horne wrote:
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I've put up a new group on Facebook, called
"AmprNet." The title is short
and to the point, but doesn't call out our IPv4 history.
Feel free to join and comment.
73,
Bill W4EWH
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11 Sep
11 Sep
12:09 a.m.
I am not now nor do I ever plan to be a Facebook user.
If you want to discuss network 44 matters on a Facebook group,
of course you are free to do so, but don't call it AMPRNET please.
- Brian
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:46:36PM -0400, Lin Holcomb wrote:
It is a much cleaner discussion format than email.
Lin
1:01 a.m.
+10
jerome - ve7ass
On Sep 10, 2017, at 21:09, Brian Kantor
<Brian(a)UCSD.Edu> wrote:
I am not now nor do I ever plan to be a Facebook user.
If you want to discuss network 44 matters on a Facebook group,
of course you are free to do so, but don't call it AMPRNET please.
- Brian
1:04 a.m.
I wont be joining any facebook group either.
Steve
On 11/09/17 14:31, jerome schatten wrote:
+10
jerome - ve7ass
On Sep 10, 2017, at 21:09, Brian Kantor
<Brian(a)UCSD.Edu> wrote:
I am not now nor do I ever plan to be a Facebook user.
If you want to discuss network 44 matters on a Facebook group,
of course you are free to do so, but don't call it AMPRNET please.
- Brian
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9:32 a.m.
+1
On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 14:34 +0930, Steve Fraser wrote:
I wont be joining any facebook group either.
I won't be tied to any unsocial media site such as defacing-book or
instagrudge or the likes. I don't want to see that Suzi's bff stole her
bf and now the world is over - and that I see it because a friend of a
friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of someone who liked it
shared it on their page. There's no value whatsoever in that crap.
Ye ole mailman works fine for me.
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Why did the refrigerator in Antarctica want to link to the refrigerator
in the Arctic on IPv6?... so they could "chill" together
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73 de Brian - N1URO/AFT1BR,
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http://axmail.sourceforge.net
AmprNet coordinator for:
Connecticut, Delaware, Maine,
Maryland, Massachusetts,
New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
Rhode Island, and Vermont.
1:50 a.m.
Our Ham community and the IARC (www.iarc.org<http://www.iarc.org>) have FaceBook
group and it is good thing as well as the DMR Im active in have facebook
Idont understand the huge objection you all have for facebook its much better you can
post Photos Videos files ETC
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From: 44Net <44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Lin
Holcomb <LHolcomb(a)clearqualitygroup.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:46 PM
To: AMPRNet working group
Subject: Re: [44net] New Facebook Group
Brian,
It is a much cleaner discussion format than email.
Lin
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
I think this was a bad idea.
- Brian
44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
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3:18 a.m.
On 11.09.2017. 7:50, R P wrote:
Idont understand the huge objection you all have for
facebook its
much better you can post Photos Videos files ETC
It simple: different media for different purpose. Facebook is ok for
short term (daily) info with NO intent to be kept for a history purpose.
So if you want to post photo of the equipment or "hey see this" message
it is ok. But if you want to publish something of more permanent
visibility, Facebook is the last place to do it.
My personal preference are forums as technically most suitable.
For some reason, hams are locked on mail lists which is also quite
outdated media for exchanging knowledge purpose.
Pedja
YT9TP
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On 11/09/2017 5:18 PM, YT9TP - Pedja wrote:
My personal preference are forums as technically most
suitable.
Horrible navigation, often poor performance and yet another damn login
to remember. I try and aggregate my information, like multiple mailing
lists to the one account. Heck, I've even got working Fidonet BBSs
exchanging mail on multiple nets, bringing more stuff together. Oh, and
the modern BBS platform had a few tricks that web forums don't, like
multi protocol access (web, telnet/SSH, NNTP, mailing list access to the
same information) - something for everyone. This flexibility of access
is something that is lost on web forum developers. :( At least with
mailing lists, I can choose to access my email using Thunderbird, Mutt
or Gmail's web interface (using IMAP allows me to switch clients
routinely). Web forums are an annoying one size (doesn't) fits all
proposition that work poorly for me.
For some reason, hams are locked on mail lists which is also quite
outdated media for exchanging knowledge purpose.
They still serve a purpose.
--
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
10 Sep
10 Sep
10:53 p.m.
BTW I actually did this in 2012 the group still exists but has no activity
anyone who wants to join is welcome I will remove it's secret status.
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
I think this was a bad idea.
- Brian
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 09:24:38PM -0400, Bill Horne wrote:
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Fax: +1 404 348 4250
I've put up a new group on Facebook, called
"AmprNet." The title is short
and to the point, but doesn't call out our IPv4 history.
Feel free to join and comment.
73,
Bill W4EWH
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12 Sep
12:19 a.m.
On 9/10/2017 9:24 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
I've put up a new group on Facebook, called
"AmprNet." The title is
short and to the point, but doesn't call out our IPv4 history.
Feel free to join and comment.
I've since found out that "AmprNet" is trademarked, so I removed the
group. Sorry for the confusion.
Bill, W4EWH
12:50 a.m.
I have no problem with mailman. If it had a way to search the
archives that would be good. I also think we need some sort of place
to upload code and documents. So groups.io would get my vote if we
were going to do something external/not hosted ourselves. I don't see
Facebook as a good place to really do anything productive.
By the way one week has gone by on the ET Docket 17-215 (its open
until October 30 for comment), and we have three comments.
(https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/)
1:03 a.m.
Groups.io has no mechanism for uploading the archives of the mailing
list, which go back to 2009 and which I think are valuable.
There was a discussion with the site owner/architect about converting
mailman lists and archives back in 2015, but it petered out without
any resolution.
So I don't think groups.io is suitable for the 44net list. It seems
like a fine place for new mailing lists to be hosted, but not for
old ones like this one.
You are right that we need a place to upload code and documents.
The wiki is suitable for small documents, more like for info pages,
but for serious stuff we don't have anything at this moment. A long
time ago we had ftp.ucsd.edu, but it's a legacy site that's likely
to finally die some day soon, and I no longer have any way to add
stuff to it.
- Brian
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:50:34PM -0500, Steve L wrote:
I have no problem with mailman. If it had a way to
search the
archives that would be good. I also think we need some sort of place
to upload code and documents. So groups.io would get my vote if we
were going to do something external/not hosted ourselves. I don't see
Facebook as a good place to really do anything productive.
5:06 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
Groups.io has no mechanism for uploading the archives
of the mailing
list, which go back to 2009 and which I think are valuable.
Brian,
Check this out:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/194673
Sounds like they can import mbox format manually.
Tom
5:12 p.m.
Yes, I'd seen that.
I don't know about importing 20,000 plus messages manually,
but I suppose I should ask. (And it looks like some of the
current list subscribers may have archives going back even
further than my own, which means even more messages to import).
Thanks.
- Brian
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 02:06:09PM -0700, Tom Hayward wrote:
Check this out:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/194673
Sounds like they can import mbox format manually.
Tom
1:10 a.m.
There is a software package for indexing and searching mailman archives
which could possibly be installed on the 44net host, except 1) it's no
longer maintained by the authors, and 2) it only indexes NEW postings -
there's no way to stuff the archives into it without going through and
re-submitting every message individually as though it were a new message.
There are 20,571 messages in the archive at this moment; I'm not going
to do that.
- Brian
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:50:34PM -0500, Steve L wrote:
I have no problem with mailman. If it had a way to
search the
archives that would be good.
11 Sep
11 Sep
2:43 p.m.
Dear All,
My two pennies about it from Polish perspective.
I do not like Facebook, I fully understand its conflict with my concept
of freedom and I have been fighting with a need of having an account
till 2014, when some other reasons forced me to do so.
However, facts are as follows. Polish usenet group
pl.rec.radio.amatorskie is currently an uninhabited island. Although
Polish usenet is in quite good condition (opposite to opinions in
another thread), only electronic group (pl.rec.elektronika) is alive
among topics similar to radio. There are several foras with some ham
discussion, but the activity is very limited there.
On the contrary, the FB group for Polish hams has currently more than
2000 subscribers (when there are similar number of active licenses and
even taking into the account that not every member is a ham, there are
majority of hams here) and the discussion is so alive, that I am not
able to read everything even logging every day.
So, what to do? There is no chance to advise 2000 people to move
anywhere else. So I simply browse this group to be up-to-date. The same
situation is with several other hobbies I am involved in.
This post is not an advise to create FB group (as I also think its a bad
idea as this will split discussion to several places), nor any advise to
make an FB account. But in many cases FB cannot be simply ignored.
73s
Luke SP8QED
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