Regarding the 44/8 and IANA:
Please don't "shake the hornets' nest," by asking IANA or ARIN. While IANA issued the /8 when it ran "Internet Registry," it is actually referenced in RFCs. It is a technical fixture of the "DARPA Internet" that the 44/8 addresses are AMPRNET. The legal question of: "is an IP address property, and if so, do legacy IP holders have different property rights than those allocated from RIRs" is a DANGEROUS question to venture into having solved before IPv4 "goes the way" of thrift store dialup modems.
Why? Because of all those who still hold legacy allocations:
AMPRNet is the only one that is: - non-commercial - nonprofit - not part of military-industrial complex - not part of the big-pharmaceutical industry - not governmental - not part of big-telecom - not part of the financial industry - not part one the major corporations, nations or firms that help rebuild/establish/maintain the infrastructure of the globe during/after World War II
What /8 do you think they'll try to take first when the world's number resources approach 0.01 /8's remaining to allocate???
-KB3VWG
I have a personal legacy class-C as do a few other folks I know. It doesn't fit in your list. :)
------------------------------ John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:54 PM, lleachii.aol.com lleachii@aol.com wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Regarding the 44/8 and IANA:
Please don't "shake the hornets' nest," by asking IANA or ARIN. While IANA issued the /8 when it ran "Internet Registry," it is actually referenced in RFCs. It is a technical fixture of the "DARPA Internet" that the 44/8 addresses are AMPRNET. The legal question of: "is an IP address property, and if so, do legacy IP holders have different property rights than those allocated from RIRs" is a DANGEROUS question to venture into having solved before IPv4 "goes the way" of thrift store dialup modems.
Why? Because of all those who still hold legacy allocations:
AMPRNet is the only one that is:
- non-commercial
- nonprofit
- not part of military-industrial complex
- not part of the big-pharmaceutical industry
- not governmental
- not part of big-telecom
- not part of the financial industry
- not part one the major corporations, nations or firms that help
rebuild/establish/maintain the infrastructure of the globe during/after World War II
What /8 do you think they'll try to take first when the world's number resources approach 0.01 /8's remaining to allocate???
-KB3VWG
44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net
Now this is the first thing I read on this list in the past 3 days that makes sense :-)
Marius, YO2LOJ
-----Original Message----- From: 44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu [mailto:44net-bounces+marius=yo2loj.ro@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of lleachii.aol.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 23:55 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: [44net] 44/8 allocation
Please don't "shake the hornets' nest," by asking IANA or ARIN. While IANA issued the /8 when it ran "Internet Registry," it is actually referenced in RFCs. It is a technical fixture of the "DARPA Internet" that the 44/8 addresses are AMPRNET. The legal question of: "is an IP address property, and if so, do legacy IP holders have different property rights than those allocated from RIRs" is a DANGEROUS question to venture into having solved before IPv4 "goes the way" of thrift store dialup modems.
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K7VE - John -
lleachii.aol.com -
Marius Petrescu