Bart also has my support, working closely with him on actual doing real work directly related to HAM Radio use of 44 space, watching him give countless talks to groups of people with amazing detail, network design work, implementing current best practices related to routing and IP network/server technology, device testing in his RF Lab and genuinely interested to trying to make the HAM space a better place.

I agree with Dan on this too "All amateurs would be well served by placing Bart on the ARDC board. We should do this as soon as possible."

Tim Osburn www.osburn.com 206.812.6214 W7RSZ

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Bart Kus wrote:

Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:22:12 -0700 From: Bart Kus me@bartk.us Reply-To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: [44net] Running for ARDC director position

Hello,

I'd like to join the board of ARDC.

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Alright. Finally got to this thread, and to this message which is the beginning of it.

Bart,

Let me start off by saying, that I'm new to both 44net and HamWAN. I'm also young (30 yo). So take those points for what they are worth.

Now I'm going to unload with both barrels on you. Everyone else has been far too polite. Yes I'm new to these forums, however they represent things that are of vital importance to me, and align with the goals/objectives/spirit of the non profit I co founded and have poured thousands of hours/dollars into.

This message is in very poor taste. You come across as a complete jerk. One doesn't just walk into a volunteer organization and demand to be on the board. Especially not with the tone you used.

On 2014-04-16 18:22, Bart Kus wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hello,

I'd like to join the board of ARDC. Having studied the situation a bit, it looks to me like ARDC is in a bad situation right now. Should Brian get hit by a bus, the corporation will no longer have any directors or officers. Its assets would then be disseminated by a court during the dismantling of the corporation. This means the address space would be given away to whoever the court decides, which could include ARIN for re-purposing as commercial space.

You make quite a few assumptions. You come across as an ass. That's what happens when one makes assumptions. Instead of coaching the above as a series of exploratory questions in a respectful manner, you state them as fact then you have one line qualifying the statements as not fact.

I'm not 100% on this, since there is scant documentation on the heritage of 44/8 and its present legal ownership status. I believe it's "legacy space", but ARIN doesn't seem to agree: the netblock suffix does not end with -Z. As "legacy space" there should be some chain of ownership documented somewhere, and I'm just not finding it.

Arin whois shows it as a direct assignment:

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-44-0-0-0-1/pft

Let's look at some other space shall we:

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-16-0-0-0-1/pft

Exactly the same.

I won't go into the legacy space details. That's been discussed to death on NANOG etc. I'll reply to some of those messages after this.

Having read the bylaws, I also haven't managed to find how I might go about becoming elected. The processes for replacement and removal of directors are defined (majority vote of board members), but I don't see how elections to vacant positions are supposed to take place. I'd also like to say that a board electing itself is not the best model of governance for a non-profit corporation. Non-profits are supposed to serve some need: in this case the needs of amateurs who wish to make use of 44/8 space. I'd like to see a governance model where the users elect the directors who best represent their needs. This is one crucial governance change that I think absolutely needs to happen.

Non profit governance is a complex subject. Generally members (due paying, voting rights) do elect the board. However in the beginning of a non profit, no members other than the founders exist. As such, the board self elects. Often for the first couple of terms.

Aside from governance, there are several technical issues that I'd like to see brought up to speed with modern standards, and published as part of official interface specifications for AMPRnet. I don't want to get too detailed in this email, but a top-level list of technical things I'd push for as director includes:

1. Support for BGP
2. Support for IPsec(AH)
3. Support for anycasting
4. An improved gateway registration process with IP ownership

verification 5) Support for DNS delegation 6) Support for DNSSEC signing 7) Deployment of multiple regional Internet gateways to remove the UCSD single point of failure 8) Adoption of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol 9) Publication of official multi-platform software which simplifies the AMPRnet user experience

I presume you have working prototypes of all the above? You have a nice powerpoint presentation prepared on why these things are important and how folks can adopt them etc etc? You are proposing a pretty complete product/feature stack here. You also impose quite a bit of requirements. Also you need to flesh those points out a bit. Especially if they are core to your proposal for a leadership position.

I've experienced opposition on implementing points 3 and 5 so far,

That doesn't surprise me. Did you propose them in the same way you are trying to become elected to the board? Not to mention those things are pretty difficult to do correctly.

and

I'm reluctant to attempt any more of these agenda items without some changes to how the organization makes decisions. There are no technical blockers here, as all of these technologies I mentioned are widely used on the Internet today. However, it's nearly impossible to achieve technical leadership when decisions require universal consensus, and/or the decision making process is undefined.

Do they? Why can't you implement these things on HamWAN, document them, make a nice LiveCD with the tech bits and let folks who desire the functionality use it? Or just pay the 2k to ARIN and get your own v6 space and fork amprnet?

AMPR

needs more board members who can push such technologies forward, and participate in the official decision making process while relying on their deep technical expertise to ensure their votes are sound.

I'd propose those people need to be officers. Not board members.

In terms of my qualifications for board duty, I founded the HamWAN organization in Washington which has deployed a regional microwave network, uses AMPRnet IP space, and has based its standard designs on the latest & greatest hardware and software has to offer. Professionally, I'd been running Internet services since 1996. Presently I work on routing for a major cloud provider. I'd like to bring the same kind of innovation to AMPRnet as I did with HamWAN. On the governance standpoint, I drafted the HamWAN bylaws in very intentional ways. Ways that empower the volunteers who are doing the active work that contributes to progress. Governance overhead is minimal so everyone can just mostly focus on the problems at hand.

So, what are the next steps here?

1) Stop being such a jerk. 2) Apply for an officer position. 3) Put together a much more concrete proposal. 4) Have some respect for the community.

--Bart

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