25 Jan
2013
25 Jan
'13
2:31 p.m.
Hello gang.
Could an ip coordinator send me via direct email the email robot's address
for adding and updating amprnet ip addresses?
Thanks
Harold
K7ilo (formerly KB7RSI)
Southern Nevada Ip Coordinator
25 Jan
25 Jan
2:49 p.m.
gateways(a)ampr.org
Paul Delaney - K6HR
http://k6hr.dyndns.org:8080
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From: 44net-bounces+paul.hamradio=verizon.net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+paul.hamradio=verizon.net@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf
Of K7ILO
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:31 AM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] ip updating
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Hello gang.
Could an ip coordinator send me via direct email the email robot's address
for adding and updating amprnet ip addresses?
Thanks
Harold
K7ilo (formerly KB7RSI)
Southern Nevada Ip Coordinator
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2:54 p.m.
That address is no longer active, you need to register with the portal now:
https://portal.ampr.org
More details to follow
Regards,
Chris - G1FEF
On 25 Jan 2013, at 19:49, Paul wrote:
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gateways(a)ampr.org
Paul Delaney - K6HR
http://k6hr.dyndns.org:8080
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[mailto:44net-bounces+paul.hamradio=verizon.net@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf
Of K7ILO
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:31 AM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] ip updating
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_______________________________________________
Hello gang.
Could an ip coordinator send me via direct email the email robot's address
for adding and updating amprnet ip addresses?
Thanks
Harold
K7ilo (formerly KB7RSI)
Southern Nevada Ip Coordinator
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3:02 p.m.
Sorry, mea culpa, that is the new address and *is* active, but you need to register on the
portal first is what I meant to say.
Chris
On 25 Jan 2013, at 19:54, Chris Smith wrote:
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That address is no longer active, you need to register with the portal now:
https://portal.ampr.org
More details to follow
Regards,
Chris - G1FEF
On 25 Jan 2013, at 19:49, Paul wrote:
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> gateways(a)ampr.org
3:05 p.m.
Hello Harold,
Could an ip coordinator send me via direct email the
email robot's address
for adding and updating amprnet ip addresses?
Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an IP or IPs from the
44/8 to register on the portal:
https://portal.ampr.org
Click on the "Register" link to the right of "Home" in the top menu.
Fill in the details requested and hit the "Register" button, you will be sent an
email with a link you need to click on to verify your email address. When you click the
link the web page will ask you to enter the username you entered on the original request,
click the "Confirm" button and your login details will be emailed back to you.
Use the details to login to https://portal.ampr.org
Your first job should be to change your password to something secure that you will
remember:
Click on the "Profile" menu link, to the right of "Allocations"
Here you can update your details, including your login password.
If you already operate a gateway, please drop me an email and I can assign it to your
account.
FYI - We imported all the gateways and their subnets from Jim's system before it went
offline to ensure the encap and rip44d updates continued - a lot of them have yet to be
"claimed" though and are therefore "orphaned". If you try to add a
gateway that exists, it will fail, in which case email me the details of your gateway and
I can assign it to your account, you can then manage it via the portal.
We have also setup a new gateways robot on gateways(a)ampr.org but you do need to have an
account on the portal first and have it assigned to your account before you can use the
email robot to update it.
If you already have subnets allocated to you within the 44/8 please drop me an email and,
as per the gateway, I can assign them to your account.
If you are a country co-ordinator or a regional co-ordinator, please get in touch asap, so
you can be setup on the portal to manage the allocations of your subnets.
Thanks,
Chris - G1FEF
3:19 p.m.
Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an IP or IPs from the
44/8 to register on the portal:
https://portal.ampr.org
Would it be possible to have some simple text search on the database?
For example, just where is "WA7NWP" mentioned these days...
Bill, WA7NWP
31 Jan
31 Jan
11:17 a.m.
On 25 Jan 2013, at 20:19, Bill Vodall wrote:
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I will add it to my TODO list, which seems to grow longer every day, so no promises when
it might get done ;-)
Chris
Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an IP or IPs from the
44/8 to register on the portal:
https://portal.ampr.org
Would it be possible to have some simple text search on the database?
For example, just where is "WA7NWP" mentioned these days...
Bill, WA7NWP 
2:05 p.m.
Chris,
While we're on the subject of TODO's,
Has any consideration or thought been given to resurrecting the 'GATEWAY' file
that Fuller maintained ?
I found the information in file useful and easy to access. Perhaps the new website has the
same info embedded, but somewhere I've yet to discover.
Jack, AA6HF
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Chris Smith <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
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On 25 Jan 2013, at 20:19, Bill Vodall wrote:
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I will add it to my TODO list, which seems to grow longer every day, so no promises when
it might get done ;-)
Chris
_________________________________________
Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an IP or IPs from the
44/8 to register on the portal:
https://portal.ampr.org
Would it be possible to have some simple text search on the database?
For example, just where is "WA7NWP" mentioned these days...
Bill, WA7NWP
2:30 p.m.
If it can't be found, I have a printed copy that I can scan as a .pdf file
and provide.
Hey Jack. Long time.
Harold
K7ILO (formerly KB7RSI)
On Jan 31, 2013 11:05 AM, "Jack Eifer" <jeifer(a)cwo.com> wrote:
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Chris,
While we're on the subject of TODO's,
Has any consideration or thought been given to resurrecting the 'GATEWAY'
file that Fuller maintained ?
I found the information in file useful and easy to access. Perhaps the new
website has the same info embedded, but somewhere I've yet to discover.
Jack, AA6HF
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Chris Smith <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
no
promises when it might get done ;-)
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On 25 Jan 2013, at 20:19, Bill Vodall wrote:
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>>
>> Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an
IP
or IPs from the 44/8 to register on the portal:
Would it be possible to have some simple text search on the database?
For example, just where is "WA7NWP" mentioned these days...
Bill, WA7NWP
I will add it to my TODO list, which seems to grow longer every day, so
Chris
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2:55 p.m.
The latest one that I have is dated Dec 29, 2010. Is there a more recent one
to build from?
If it can't be found, I have a printed copy that I
can scan as a .pdf file
and provide.
Hey Jack. Long time.
Harold
K7ILO (formerly KB7RSI)
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5:24 p.m.
On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:05, Jack Eifer wrote:
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Chris,
While we're on the subject of TODO's,
Has any consideration or thought been given to resurrecting the 'GATEWAY' file
that Fuller maintained ?
Yes, this is on my TODO list as it has been requested by someone else.
Although the old data from Jim's system is available, it was quite out of date, so the
new gateways file will be populated from the current data in the portal database, but the
format will be the same.
Should be available fairly soon.
Chris
1 Feb
1 Feb
12:28 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as a
regional coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period
of time, abandoning the allocation in the process, and don't
release the allocation. There is no apparent method for the
regional coordinator to attempt contact with the person and
or release the allocation if the person cannot be contacted
or found.
2. Since a person has to register on the Amprnet portal and
provide contact information, it would seem logical for the
coordinator to be able to see the contact record.
3. In lieu of providing the regional coordinator a method to
recover abandoned allocations, put an expiration date on the
allocation with notification to the person receiving the
allocation that they must log into the portal to renew the
allocation prior to expiration. The expiration date would
relative to the date of issuance or renewal. I would say a 2
to 5 year reservation on the allocation seems reasonable.
David, W7SZS
4:38 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
Hi David,
A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as
a regional coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time, abandoning the
allocation in the process, and don't release the allocation. There is no apparent
method for the regional coordinator to attempt contact with the person and or release the
allocation if the person cannot be contacted or found.
This is already addressed in the new system: After a suitable period of time following the
initial allocation, the system will email the end user of the allocated subnet with a link
asking them to click on the link to confirm they are still active and using the IP's.
For anyone not wishing to click on a link in an email, the email will also advise them
that they can login to the portal as usual to confirm their ongoing use of the subnet.
If there is no response, a second email is sent a while later, this time an email is also
sent to the co-ordinator, so they are aware that the first contact attempt timed out. The
co-ordinator may be able to assist at this point by giving the person a
"nudge".
If the second email gets no response, a third email is sent to both end user and
co-ordinator, advising that the allocated subnet has been de-activated, but that it can be
re-activated if they respond to the email.
At this point the subnet is removed from any gateways and DNS, but remains in the database
as a de-activated entry.
After a suitable period of time a final email is sent to user and co-ordinator advising
them that the subnet has been deleted and returned to the pool.
Regards,
Chris
7:51 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
This seems reasonable for recovering allocations, but how do you deal with coordinators
that go silent and stop processing requests for their area?
Are regional coordinators really necessary, can't the blocks be managed centrally with
an automated system, as long as the block being requested are within some specific
guidelines?
Bob
________________________________
From: Chris Smith <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk>
To: w7szs(a)noapra.org; AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 4:38:42 AM
Subject: Re: [44net] Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
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Hi David,
A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as
a regional coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time, abandoning the
allocation in the process, and don't release the allocation. There is no apparent
method for the regional coordinator to attempt contact with the person and or release the
allocation if the person cannot be contacted or found.
This is already addressed in the new system: After a suitable period of time following the
initial allocation, the system will email the end user of the allocated subnet with a link
asking them to click on the link to confirm they are still active and using the IP's.
For anyone not wishing to click on a link in an email, the email will also advise them
that they can login to the portal as usual to confirm their ongoing use of the subnet.
If there is no response, a second email is sent a while later, this time an email is also
sent to the co-ordinator, so they are aware that the first contact attempt timed out. The
co-ordinator may be able to assist at this point by giving the person a
"nudge".
If the second email gets no response, a third email is sent to both end user and
co-ordinator, advising that the allocated subnet has been de-activated, but that it can be
re-activated if they respond to the email.
At this point the subnet is removed from any gateways and DNS, but remains in the database
as a de-activated entry.
After a suitable period of time a final email is sent to user and co-ordinator advising
them that the subnet has been deleted and returned to the pool.
Regards,
Chris
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9:21 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
Hi Bob,
This seems reasonable for recovering allocations, but
how do you deal with coordinators that go silent and stop processing requests for their
area?
The same process occurs, the regional co-ordinators and above them, the country
co-ordinators are seen by the system as "responsible" for the subnet allocated
to them. If a regional or country co-ordinator fails to respond and there are allocated
addresses within their subnet obviously the subnet is not de-activated or deleted, however
the responsibility does pass to the next level up.
If a regional co-ordinator failed to respond the subnet defaults back to the country
co-ordinator, who can then attempt to find someone else to look after the region.
Ultimately, if a country co-ordinator fails to respond, the country's subnet would
default back to Brian, who then has to try and find a new country co-ordinator.
Are regional coordinators really necessary, can't
the blocks be managed centrally with an automated system, as long as the block being
requested are within some specific guidelines?
Countries vary in their setup, some just have one person that looks after the entire
subnet, others, e.g. the US have regional co-ordinators to spread the workload, some have
specific rules for allocating IP's, and so on. All the portal is trying to do is
maintain an up to date list of what IP's are being used and who is responsible for
them, how they are allocated is up to the country's co-ordinator, who are we to
dictate how a country is to allocate their IP's?
Regards,
Chris
Bob
From: Chris Smith <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk>
To: w7szs(a)noapra.org; AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 4:38:42 AM
Subject: Re: [44net] Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
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_______________________________________________
Hi David,
A couple of issues that I see coming down the
line as a regional coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time, abandoning the
allocation in the process, and don't release the allocation. There is no apparent
method for the regional coordinator to attempt contact with the person and or release the
allocation if the person cannot be contacted or found.
This is already addressed in the new system: After a suitable period of time following
the initial allocation, the system will email the end user of the allocated subnet with a
link asking them to click on the link to confirm they are still active and using the
IP's. For anyone not wishing to click on a link in an email, the email will also
advise them that they can login to the portal as usual to confirm their ongoing use of the
subnet.
If there is no response, a second email is sent a while later, this time an email is also
sent to the co-ordinator, so they are aware that the first contact attempt timed out. The
co-ordinator may be able to assist at this point by giving the person a
"nudge".
If the second email gets no response, a third email is sent to both end user and
co-ordinator, advising that the allocated subnet has been de-activated, but that it can be
re-activated if they respond to the email.
At this point the subnet is removed from any gateways and DNS, but remains in the
database as a de-activated entry.
After a suitable period of time a final email is sent to user and co-ordinator advising
them that the subnet has been deleted and returned to the pool.
Regards,
Chris
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3:23 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
This seems reasonable for recovering allocations, but
how do you deal with coordinators that go silent and stop processing requests for their
area?
Are regional coordinators really necessary, can't the blocks be managed centrally
with an automated system, as long as the block being requested are within some specific
guidelines?
Automation is best.. Otherwise, why not have a process for teams or
backups instead of a single responsible, normally too busy,
individual..
73
Bill - WA7NWP
10:11 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Chris Smith wrote:
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:38:42 +0000
From: Chris Smith <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk>
Reply-To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
To: w7szs(a)noapra.org, AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [44net] Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
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Hi David,
I recommend adding a link from the portal to the TOS which spells out the
allocation period and terms.
http://www.ampr.org/tos.txt
BTW, any reason why ampr.org and www.ampr.org can't have exactly the same
IP address (or make one a cname) so that entering either one gets you to
the same website? Ie. the 'www' shouldn't really be necessary in a URI.
The 44.0.0.1 address is already nailed down by gw.
Antonio Querubin
e-mail: tony(a)lavanauts.org
xmpp: antonioquerubin(a)gmail.com
A couple of issues that I see coming down the
line as a regional
coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time,
abandoning the allocation in the process, and don't release the
allocation. There is no apparent method for the regional coordinator to
attempt contact with the person and or release the allocation if the
person cannot be contacted or found.
This is already addressed in the new system: After a suitable period of
time following the initial allocation, the system will email the end
user of the allocated subnet with a link asking them to click on the
link to confirm they are still active and using the IP's. For anyone not
wishing to click on a link in an email, the email will also advise them
that they can login to the portal as usual to confirm their ongoing use
of the subnet. 
10:18 a.m.
New subject: www.ampr.org
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 05:11:27AM -1000, Antonio Querubin wrote:
BTW, any reason why ampr.org and www.ampr.org
can't have exactly the
same IP address (or make one a cname) so that entering either one
gets you to the same website? Ie. the 'www' shouldn't really be
necessary in a URI. The 44.0.0.1 address is already nailed down by gw.
I'll look into it.
- Brian
2 Feb
2 Feb
12:11 a.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
Chris, your description on the automated renewal and
recovery process of allocations is clear and reasonable. The
remaining question I have is what is the current time value
definition for a "suitable period of time"?
David, W7SZS
On 02/01/2013 01:38 AM, Chris Smith wrote:
Hi David,
A couple of issues that I see coming down the
line as a regional coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time, abandoning the
allocation in the process, and don't release the allocation. There is no apparent
method for the regional coordinator to attempt contact with the person and or release the
allocation if the person cannot be contacted or found.
This is already addressed in
the new system: After a suitable period of time following the initial allocation, the
system will email the end user of the allocated subnet with a link asking them to click on
the link to confirm they are still active and using the IP's. For anyone not wishing
to click on a link in an email, the email will also advise them that they can login to the
portal as usual to confirm their ongoing use of the subnet.
If there is no response, a second email is sent a while later, this time an email is also
sent to the co-ordinator, so they are aware that the first contact attempt timed out. The
co-ordinator may be able to assist at this point by giving the person a
"nudge".
If the second email gets no response, a third email is sent to both end user and
co-ordinator, advising that the allocated subnet has been de-activated, but that it can be
re-activated if they respond to the email.
At this point the subnet is removed from any gateways and DNS, but remains in the
database as a de-activated entry.
After a suitable period of time a final email is sent to user and co-ordinator advising
them that the subnet has been deleted and returned to the pool.
Regards,
Chris
12:44 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, David Warner wrote:
Chris, your description on the automated renewal and
recovery process of
allocations is clear and reasonable. The remaining question I have is what is
the current time value definition for a "suitable period of time"?
The ToS mentions a 5 year period.
http://ampr.org/tos.txt
Antonio Querubin
e-mail: tony(a)lavanauts.org
xmpp: antonioquerubin(a)gmail.com
1 Feb
1 Feb
2:43 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
If a subnet is laying dormant in your coverage area (and there are many)
it is up for grabs for you to route.
But you have to make absolutely sure that no one is planing to route
that subnet already.
You are only doing people who are already having an address/host name in
it a favour.
The first thing you should do if you start a gateway is to look for old
subnets in your coverage area who are laying dormant
in my opinion.
Bob VE3TOK
On 13-02-01 12:28 AM, David Warner wrote:
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A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as a regional
coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time,
abandoning the allocation in the process, and don't release the
allocation. There is no apparent method for the regional coordinator
to attempt contact with the person and or release the allocation if
the person cannot be contacted or found.
2. Since a person has to register on the Amprnet portal and provide
contact information, it would seem logical for the coordinator to be
able to see the contact record.
3. In lieu of providing the regional coordinator a method to recover
abandoned allocations, put an expiration date on the allocation with
notification to the person receiving the allocation that they must log
into the portal to renew the allocation prior to expiration. The
expiration date would relative to the date of issuance or renewal. I
would say a 2 to 5 year reservation on the allocation seems reasonable.
David, W7SZS
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4:43 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
That is fine but how do you make sure no one is planning to route it and how would a
dispute be resolved...this is much like repeater pairs and why they are usually
coordinated in an area.
I may give it a try and see where it goes, I will just squat on a block and see who
screams :)
Thanks
Bob
_______________________________________________
If a subnet is laying dormant in your coverage area (and there are many) it is up for
grabs for you to route.
But you have to make absolutely sure that no one is planing to
route that subnet already.
You are only doing people who are already having an address/host
name in it a favour.
The first thing you should do if you start a gateway is to look
for old subnets in your coverage area who are laying dormant
in my opinion.
Bob VE3TOK
On 13-02-01 12:28 AM, David Warner wrote:
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_______________________________________________
A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as a regional
coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of
time,
abandoning the allocation in the process, and don't release
the allocation. There is no apparent method for the regional
coordinator to attempt contact with the person and or release the
allocation if the person cannot be contacted or found.
2. Since a person has to register on the Amprnet portal and
provide contact
information, it would seem logical for the
coordinator to be able to see the contact record.
3. In lieu of providing the regional coordinator a method to
recover abandoned
allocations, put an expiration date on the
allocation with notification to the person receiving the
allocation that they must log into the portal to renew the
allocation prior to expiration. The expiration date would relative
to the date of issuance or renewal. I would say a 2 to 5 year
reservation on the allocation seems reasonable.
David, W7SZS
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4:49 p.m.
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This seems to me why blocks should be announced (probably via bgp).
AF6EP
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Bob Scanferla <va3rjs(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
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That is fine but how do you make sure no one is planning to route it and
how would a dispute be resolved...this is much like repeater pairs and why
they are usually coordinated in an area.
I may give it a try and see where it goes, I will just squat on a block
and see who screams :)
Thanks
Bob
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If a subnet is laying dormant in your coverage area (and there are many)
it is up for grabs for you to route.
But you have to make absolutely sure that no one is planing to route that
subnet already.
You are only doing people who are already having an address/host name in
it a favour.
The first thing you should do if you start a gateway is to look for old
subnets in your coverage area who are laying dormant
in my opinion.
Bob VE3TOK
On 13-02-01 12:28 AM, David Warner wrote:
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A couple of issues that I see coming down the line as a regional
coordinator.
1. Persons receiving an allocation disappear after a period of time,
abandoning the allocation in the process, and don't release the allocation.
There is no apparent method for the regional coordinator to attempt contact
with the person and or release the allocation if the person cannot be
contacted or found.
2. Since a person has to register on the Amprnet portal and provide
contact information, it would seem logical for the coordinator to be able
to see the contact record.
3. In lieu of providing the regional coordinator a method to recover
abandoned allocations, put an expiration date on the allocation with
notification to the person receiving the allocation that they must log into
the portal to renew the allocation prior to expiration. The expiration date
would relative to the date of issuance or renewal. I would say a 2 to 5
year reservation on the allocation seems reasonable.
David, W7SZS
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:49:17PM -0800, Eric Fort wrote:
This seems to me why blocks should be announced
(probably via bgp).
BGP-routed subnets *are* announced via BGP. Tunnel-routed subnets
are announced via RIP and the manual gateway/encap file.
- Brian
5:40 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian(a)ucsd.edu> wrote:
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:49:17PM -0800, Eric Fort wrote:
Wasn't saying they were not announced, merely that those in use should be
(larger blocks via bgp, small subnets via RIP) and if they are probably
should not be stepped on or used without coordination with the party
primarily allocated that block/subnet. one or more SWIP servers with a
requirement that all who are allocated address space keep their contact
info current would likely be quite useful here.
AF6EP
This seems to me why blocks should be announced
(probably via bgp).
BGP-routed subnets *are* announced via BGP. Tunnel-routed subnets
are announced via RIP and the manual gateway/encap file.
- Brian
5:10 p.m.
New subject: Coordinator Privileges on Amprnet Portal
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 01:43:05PM -0800, Bob Scanferla wrote:
I may give it a try and see where it goes, I will just squat on a block and see who
screams :)
If you have a complaint about a specific coordinator or about the
coordination process in general you are welcome to send private mail
to me and I'll see what can I can do to remedy the problem.
- Brian
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