How suspicious, another new board member has been added to ARDC to help out in the ongoing fraud, Bdale Garbee, KB0G.
https://www.ampr.org/about/who-we-are/
I'd hope we all keep an eye on this page, as we can't trust ARDC to police themselves.
The plot thickens..
Seems like a good appointment. Overall, I think the ARDC board composition has really improved in recent weeks.
Perhaps I’m more optimistic than you Bryan. I trust people until they do something that suggests I shouldn’t. You know, innocent until proven guilty.
Randy, W3RWN
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:47 PM Bryan Fields via 44Net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
How suspicious, another new board member has been added to ARDC to help out in the ongoing fraud, Bdale Garbee, KB0G.
https://www.ampr.org/about/who-we-are/
I'd hope we all keep an eye on this page, as we can't trust ARDC to police themselves.
The plot thickens..
Bryan Fields
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I firmly believe that Bdale Garbee, KB0G is an excellent choice for the position. I met him many (1) years ago through TAPR in the early AX.25/packet days Very knowledgeable and fair individual. Good Luck Bdale
Don WB5EKU
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:58 PM Randy Neals via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Seems like a good appointment. Overall, I think the ARDC board composition has really improved in recent weeks.
Perhaps I’m more optimistic than you Bryan. I trust people until they do something that suggests I shouldn’t. You know, innocent until proven guilty.
Randy, W3RWN
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:47 PM Bryan Fields via 44Net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
How suspicious, another new board member has been added to ARDC to help out in the ongoing fraud, Bdale Garbee, KB0G.
https://www.ampr.org/about/who-we-are/
I'd hope we all keep an eye on this page, as we can't trust ARDC to police themselves.
The plot thickens..
Bryan Fields
727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
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Looks like this person may be a good addition, certainly looks to be someone who has had some previous experience at other technical foundations which support a worldwide community of unpaid persons,
However perhaps what Bryan is illuding to, is how was this person elected (appointed) to be on the board?
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:48 PM Bryan Fields via 44Net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
How suspicious, another new board member has been added to ARDC to help out in the ongoing fraud, Bdale Garbee, KB0G.
https://www.ampr.org/about/who-we-are/
I'd hope we all keep an eye on this page, as we can't trust ARDC to police themselves.
The plot thickens..
Bryan Fields
727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
44Net mailing list 44Net@mailman.ampr.org https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:32 PM Darcy Buskermolen via 44Net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
... However perhaps what Bryan is illuding to, is how was this person elected (appointed) to be on the board?
Who would do the election? Readers may wish to review Articles III and IV of the ARDC corporate by-laws https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Bylaws-2019-03-03.pdf which is the governing document subject to the laws under which the corporation was formed. These questions are addressed there.
Bdale has been active in the amateur digital and amateur satellite community since at least the early 80s. (I have had occasion to interact with him going back into the 80s.) He has also been in the Open Source community most of that time. He comes with a good resume:
Bdale Garbee Technologist and Community Builder
A contributor to the Free Software community since 1979, Bdale's background also includes many years of hardware design, Unix internals, and embedded systems work. He was an early participant in the Debian project, helped port Debian GNU/Linux to 5 architectures, served as Debian Project Leader, then chairman of the Debian Technical Committee for nearly a decade, and remains active in the Debian community.
In 2012, Bdale retired from HP, where he served as Chief Technologist for Open Source and Linux. After briefly working for Samsung as an open source advisor, Bdale returned to HP in 2014 as an HP Fellow in the Office of the CTO where for 25 months he led HP's open source strategy work before returning to retirement late in 2016. During his tenure, HP (later HPE) engaged in a wide variety of open source activities, and maintained consistent market leadership in the sale of servers and storage to Linux users.
Altus Metrum, LLC, is a small business Bdale founded with Keith Packard that designs, builds, and sells completely open hardware and open source avionics solutions for use in high power model rockets.
For a decade, Bdale served as President of Software in the Public Interest. He served nearly as long on the board of directors of the Linux Foundation representing individual affiliates and the developer community. Bdale currently serves on the boards of the Freedombox Foundation, Linux Professional Institute, and Aleph Objects. He is also a member of the Evaluations Committee at the Software Freedom Conservancy, and continues to speak at Linux and open source conferences from time to time.
In 2008, Bdale became the first individual recipient of a Lutece d'Or award from the Federation Nationale de l'Industrie du Logiciel Libre in France.
Bdale engages in a wide variety of personal activities. In addition to high-powered model rocketry and home shop machining, he is widely known for his contributions to the amateur radio hobby including packet radio, weak-signal communications, software defined radio, and building amateur satellites. -- https://gag.com/bdale/bio/bdale_bio.txt
Seems like a good pick.
------------------------------ John D. Hays - K7VE Kingston, WA http://k7ve.org/blog http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays
On 8/14/19 6:18 PM, K7VE - John via 44Net wrote:
Who would do the election? Readers may wish to review Articles III and IV of the ARDC corporate by-laws https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Bylaws-2019-03-03.pdf which is the governing document subject to the laws under which the corporation was formed. These questions are addressed there.
John, I think we're all quite familiar with the ARDC "bylaws" which provide for no community involvement in ARDC affairs. It was this way for years, and generally somethings worked, eventually, and the conflicts of interest were ignored. Then ARDC decided to commit one of the largest financial frauds ever seen in this area. This changed from a do nothing board holding back digital in amateur radio, to a board committing fraud against the entire community.
Bdale has been active in the amateur digital and amateur satellite community since at least the early 80s. (I have had occasion to interact with him going back into the 80s.) He has also been in the Open Source community most of that time. He comes with a good resume:
I know who he is, and frankly I'm sad to see him get involved with this fraud. Once you take money from ARDC or work with them post fraud, it's all fruit of the poison tree. ARDC in it's current form, with it's current leadership cannot lead itself nor be trusted. They cannot deal in an open manner, they cannot gain consensus, and have a distinct lack of technical competence.
I do understand ARDC leadership has made it known to the coordinators and others that you either toe the line or GTFO, so I can understand your position.
Thank you,
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:55:44 -0400, Bryan Fields via 44Net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
On 8/14/19 6:18 PM, K7VE - John via 44Net wrote:
Who would do the election? Readers may wish to review Articles III and IV of the ARDC corporate by-laws https://www.ampr.org/wp-content/uploads/Bylaws-2019-03-03.pdf which is the governing document subject to the laws under which the corporation was formed. These questions are addressed there.
John, I think we're all quite familiar with the ARDC "bylaws" which provide for no community involvement in ARDC affairs. It was this way for years, and generally somethings worked, eventually, and the conflicts of interest were ignored. Then ARDC decided to commit one of the largest financial frauds ever seen in this area. This changed from a do nothing board holding back digital in amateur radio, to a board committing fraud against the entire community.
Bdale has been active in the amateur digital and amateur satellite community since at least the early 80s. (I have had occasion to interact with him going back into the 80s.) He has also been in the Open Source community most of that time. He comes with a good resume:
I know who he is, and frankly I'm sad to see him get involved with this fraud. Once you take money from ARDC or work with them post fraud, it's all fruit of the poison tree. ARDC in it's current form, with it's current leadership cannot lead itself nor be trusted. They cannot deal in an open manner, they cannot gain consensus, and have a distinct lack of technical competence.
I do understand ARDC leadership has made it known to the coordinators and others that you either toe the line or GTFO, so I can understand your position.
Bryan, Allegations of fraud are a serious matter. If you have proof of fraud, get a lawyer and file a case but my guess is a lawyer will tell you you don't have standing. If you can't prove your case or you don't have evidence then what you are writing is libel. Do not allege that which you cannot prove.
hi, how about toning down the vitriol, and have a factual debate: your aggressive tone does not make it any easier to raise a word in favour of your view. you are underming any effort to quietly argue the case of more oversight. where has your voice been before this broke? when discusssing this amongst the interested irish radio hams your name and verbal contribution is automatically identified as the cranky psycho, making any reasoned look at your arguments impossible. that can hardly be your aim, you are effectively discrediting yourself. you are strengthening your opponents with your behavious. greetings from stefan, ei4ku (ex ei4hg, dg1hz)
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