Thanks, Chris for the response. My issue is with the lack of feedback. I approved the allocation but it wasn't allocated to the network table. The BGP is a secondary issue with respect to the allocation of the IP range and I don't understand why it would have to be postponed due to the pending BGP coordination. We waited a week for some kind of response but neither he nor I had received anything. There is nothing in the process outline that I read whereby the BGP goes into direct contact mode after the portal assignment. He contacted me on Jan 23 after hearing nothing since I posted the allocation on the 5th. I issued a contact query via the portal and also received nothing. I'm happy to see you are conversing with Keith and I will consider the matter closed. It would have been nice if you had taken the time to inform me of the direct contact since it would have saved me considerable time and I would not have wasted the bandwidth on the list. On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:58 PM Paul Sladen via 44Net < 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, G1FEF via 44Net wrote: "Often" here means "sometimes". (1) /Why/ are "private details" being exchanged *sometimes*, but other times not? (ie. there appears to be variability in the process, but that variability is not documented...; otherwise the requestee would likely already have pre-submitted the information, because of knowing clearly what was going to be requested. Teaching a computer, first requires knowing/recording the steps. (Yourself/Brian know/knew how the workflow was done, but at the moment that information is still locked away, and not openly shared). ...We have it again: "please contact me off list". (->memory hole.) (2) What can I/we do to help, to keep discussion like this *on list*? Here's the same standard offer to the trustees/employees; (*it requires a conscious decision+commitment to *want* be open...) I (Paul Sladen) am willing to help Ampr/ARDC organise documentation- stuff. It is only possible to organise what is already written down and shared. (3) Do yourself/the trustees want to do this? -Paul

Hi Cynthia, On 1/30/21 3:14 PM, Cynthia Revström via 44Net wrote:> It is well documented that there are issues with the Portal, as well as other technical items related to 44net. ARDC is aware, and we are in fact quite interested in fixing them. To that end we're reinstantiating the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) (members to be announced next week) specifically to sort through its many issues and help prioritize them. From there, we will be working with developers to implement the needed work. A new, more stable back end is already in development. When it comes to the work, both in the short term and the long term, there are multiple ways to solve the problems before us. This is why the TAC is so critical - with their input, we aim to determine a direction, one rooted in the people who are using the network, aimed toward its future health and growth. One area where we do realize we could do a better job is with communications. It's understandable not to know this information if no one's said anything. This year ARDC will be hiring some additional staff, which will help us get the word out about what we're doing (among so many other things). For now, it's just me, and I'm working on a quarterly communication cycle and sporadically popping on 44net. Speaking of quarterly communications, next Saturday 06 Feb we're doing a community video call. Read more and sign up here: https://www.ampr.org/feb-6-community-meeting-new-survey/ Please join if you can. Looking forward to sharing more with y'all very soon. In the meantime - please know that you are heard and that solutions are in the works. All the best and 73, Rosy Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ampr.org

My original contact with the end user (this, his second allocation) was via his application for a new subnet via the portal.ampr.org when I received email from the portal that a new application was submitted. I created an allocation for a /24 and because the "Direct" connection checkbox was set (as this is the flag for "I want to advertize") the coordination was "Sent to BGP Coordinator" when I submitted the form but there was no allocation assigned per my approval when I inspected the table. This made it appear as though no allocation was made. There is no mechanism in the portal web pages for a coordinator to inspect his subnet tables for "pending" allocations. All any coordinator can see is the allocations he's made. There is no record of past or pending applications & approvals so a coordinator is completely in the dark as far as what's happening in the back end. My perception was that I had made some kind of fat-fingered mistake and the allocation had failed. I wouldn't have bothered with the 44-list but I was getting nowhere with the portal and I knew Chris was on here but I didn't know he was the BGP coordinator or who else might have been one. Now that I have received proper trial-by-fire training I will know what to expect. -- Geoff Joy - ke6qh - AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties. (44.18/16) On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:44 PM Paul Sladen &lt;44net(a)paul.sladen.org&gt; wrote: