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Marc Williams

13 Jul 2017 13 Jul '17

8:20 a.m.

Good afternoon all, Unfortunately I made little progress with my home setup due to the joys of work and real life demands.Anyway sob story aside I have a little spare time again so I am looking to get a MikroTik router ordered.So my question is do I need to adhere to a minimum spec? The memory and processor specs seem to very greatly. Thanks in advance. Marc (2W0PNT)

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Rial Sloan

13 Jul 13 Jul

10:08 a.m.

I think most of the Mikrotik deployments I've seen for 44net (or HamWAN) have either been with the RB2011, the newer RB3011, or the RB750 options. I have a CCR1016 and it's way overkill for anything just 44net. Unless you're planning on running a full BGP router and terminating dozens of VPNs you should be fine with any of the other series' CPU and RAM options. I think the RB750GR3 is the best bang for your buck if you don't need POE or SFP. https://routerboard.com/RB750Gr3 The RB960PGS is probably the best bang for your buck if you do. https://routerboard.com/RB960PGS Someone with actual experience on those platforms should weigh in though. -- Rial F Sloan II N0OTZ

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Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET]

18 Jul 18 Jul

9:47 a.m.

Hi Marc, I don’t think there’s a minimal spec you should abide to in order to to put to work Net 44 on your site. In my case, where we run a BGP session with Internet and publish our assigned segment, we use a CCR1036 having in memory the full BGP routing table, but even so, this is not a compulsory requirement for you. In example, you can configure a less expensive router with only a default gateway to your ISP and/or to the ISP that runs the BGP session for you (if that would be the case). Our network design follows as a mere example of use (in ASCII art due to list restrictions): _( )_( )_ ( ) x.x.x.x/30 ( ) _( )_( )_(_) ( )_ (_INTERNET_)—( X ) -------------- ( X )-(_44.133.233.0/24 _) (_) (__) ( ) ( ) (_) (__) (__) (_) BGP Local bridged router router w/ firewall Both routers above are Mikrotik CCR1036 (CCR1036-8G-2S+EM) as mentioned before. If you want to launch a traceroute from public Internet, just to demonstrate above setup, you can use 44.133.233.8. Being said that, and nonetheless, I don’t think a Mikrotik RB750 is a good idea as it quite skimpy to have many things running at the same time. A Mikrotik RB2011 (no Wi-Fi) and above will be, for sue, very good platforms to play with. Hope this helps! Best regards, -- Vy73 de EA1HET, Jonathan > El 13 jul 2017, a las 14:20, Marc Williams <monsieurmarc(a)btinternet.com <mailto:monsieurmarc@btinternet.com>> escribió: > > Good afternoon all, > Unfortunately I made little progress with my home setup due to the joys of work and real life demands.Anyway sob story aside I have a little spare time again so I am looking to get a MikroTik router ordered.So my question is do I need to adhere to a minimum spec? The memory and processor specs seem to very greatly. > Thanks in advance. > Marc (2W0PNT) >

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Marc Williams

9:54 a.m.

many thanks Jonathon On Tuesday, 18 July 2017, 14:49, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] <ea1het(a)ea1het.com> wrote: Hi Marc, I don’t think there’s a minimal spec you should abide to in order to to put to work Net 44 on your site. In my case, where we run a BGP session with Internet and publish our assigned segment, we use a CCR1036 having in memory the full BGP routing table, but even so, this is not a compulsory requirement for you. In example, you can configure a less expensive router with only a default gateway to your ISP and/or to the ISP that runs the BGP session for you (if that would be the case). Our network design follows as a mere example of use (in ASCII art due to list restrictions): _( )_( )_ ( ) x.x.x.x/30 ( ) _( )_( )_(_) ( )_ (_INTERNET_)—( X ) -------------- ( X )-(_44.133.233.0/24 _) (_) (__) ( ) ( ) (_) (__) (__) (_) BGP Local bridged router router w/ firewall Both routers above are Mikrotik CCR1036 (CCR1036-8G-2S+EM) as mentioned before. If you want to launch a traceroute from public Internet, just to demonstrate above setup, you can use 44.133.233.8. Being said that, and nonetheless, I don’t think a Mikrotik RB750 is a good idea as it quite skimpy to have many things running at the same time. A Mikrotik RB2011 (no Wi-Fi) and above will be, for sue, very good platforms to play with. Hope this helps! Best regards, -- Vy73 de EA1HET, Jonathan > El 13 jul 2017, a las 14:20, Marc Williams <monsieurmarc(a)btinternet.com <mailto:monsieurmarc@btinternet.com>> escribió: > > Good afternoon all, > Unfortunately I made little progress with my home setup due to the joys of work and real life demands.Anyway sob story aside I have a little spare time again so I am looking to get a MikroTik router ordered.So my question is do I need to adhere to a minimum spec? The memory and processor specs seem to very greatly. > Thanks in advance. > Marc (2W0PNT) >

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Leon Zetekoff

10:12 a.m.

Hi Jonathan...i tried to get to you from 44.56.53.3 and it fails.... C:\Users\leonz>tracert 44.133.233.8 Tracing route to 44.133.233.8 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms t30.wa4zlw.homedns.org [10.195.10.3] 2 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.56.53.1] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 ^C C:\Users\leonz> 73 leon On 7/18/2017 9:47 AM, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] wrote:

Hi Marc, I don’t think there’s a minimal spec you should abide to in order to to put to work Net 44 on your site. In my case, where we run a BGP session with Internet and publish our assigned segment, we use a CCR1036 having in memory the full BGP routing table, but even so, this is not a compulsory requirement for you. In example, you can configure a less expensive router with only a default gateway to your ISP and/or to the ISP that runs the BGP session for you (if that would be the case). Our network design follows as a mere example of use (in ASCII art due to list restrictions): _( )_( )_ ( ) x.x.x.x/30 ( ) _( )_( )_(_) ( )_ (_INTERNET_)—( X ) -------------- ( X )-(_44.133.233.0/24 _) (_) (__) ( ) ( ) (_) (__) (__) (_) BGP Local bridged router router w/ firewall Both routers above are Mikrotik CCR1036 (CCR1036-8G-2S+EM) as mentioned before. If you want to launch a traceroute from public Internet, just to demonstrate above setup, you can use 44.133.233.8. radio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

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Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET]

4:31 p.m.

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Leon Zetekoff

6:37 p.m.

Hi Jonathan...I can ping but not trace to it...Leon (.10) On 7/18/2017 4:31 PM, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] wrote:

Hi Leon, Maybe the host was down by the user. Try .10 instead. BR. 15:13, July 18, 2017, Leon Zetekoff <wa4zlw(a)backwoodswireless.net>et>: Hi Jonathan...i tried to get to you from 44.56.53.3 and it fails.... C:\Users\leonz>tracert 44.133.233.8 Tracing route to 44.133.233.8 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms t30.wa4zlw.homedns.org [10.195.10.3] 2 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.56.53.1] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 ^C C:\Users\leonz> 73 leon On 7/18/2017 9:47 AM, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] wrote: Hi Marc, I don’t think there’s a minimal spec you should abide to in order to to put to work Net 44 on your site. In my case, where we run a BGP session with Internet and publish our assigned segment, we use a CCR1036 having in memory the full BGP routing table, but even so, this is not a compulsory requirement for you. In example, you can configure a less expensive router with only a default gateway to your ISP and/or to the ISP that runs the BGP session for you (if that would be the case). Our network design follows as a mere example of use (in ASCII art due to list restrictions): _( )_( )_ ( ) x.x.x.x/30 ( ) _( )_( )_(_) ( )_ (_INTERNET_)—( X ) -------------- ( X )-(_44.133.233.0/24 _) (_) (__) ( ) ( ) (_) (__) (__) (_) BGP Local bridged router router w/ firewall Both routers above are Mikrotik CCR1036 (CCR1036-8G-2S+EM) as mentioned before. If you want to launch a traceroute from public Internet, just to demonstrate above setup, you can use 44.133.233.8. radio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com -- Vy73 de EA1HET, Jonathan

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Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET]

9:37 p.m.

Hi Leon, This might be caused due to transport is quite new yet and filters might be applied for some reason. I’ve connected to a VPN service in NYC and this is the trace to our network segment: My traceroute [v0.87] MiniHET.local (0.0.0.0) Wed Jul 19 03:34:55 2017 Resolver: Received error response 2. (server failure)er of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 10.115.0.1 0.0% 63 132.1 128.6 122.9 181.6 8.5 2. 157.97.120.1 79.0% 63 124.8 127.9 124.8 134.1 2.7 3. ethernet6-1-br2.pnj1.choopa.net 88.5% 62 124.1 126.1 123.7 129.3 2.1 4. vl23-er1.pnj1.choopa.net 91.8% 62 137.7 135.7 125.9 154.0 11.3 vl24-er2.pnj1.choopa.net 5. be4448.nr11.b033057-0.ewr06.atlas.cogentco.com 88.5% 62 128.7 127.7 124.2 131.4 2.5 be4446.ccr21.jfk10.atlas.cogentco.com 6. te0-7-0-3.rcr21.ewr06.atlas.cogentco.com 91.8% 62 129.5 131.6 126.6 138.7 4.6 be2056.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com 7. be3118.rcr21.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com 93.4% 62 197.9 181.4 127.3 202.0 36.1 be2317.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com 8. be2601.rcr24.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com 93.4% 62 205.5 150.2 131.0 205.5 36.9 be12497.ccr41.par01.atlas.cogentco.com 9. be2897.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com 96.7% 62 225.3 176.3 127.2 225.3 69.3 be3325.ccr21.bio02.atlas.cogentco.com 10. te0-0-1-0.rcr12.ovd01.atlas.cogentco.com 91.8% 62 210.2 208.6 201.2 223.7 9.1 be2490.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com 11. be12489.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com 95.1% 62 222.5 218.3 212.0 222.5 5.4 12. be3324.ccr22.bio02.atlas.cogentco.com 90.2% 62 240.7 235.4 224.1 251.4 9.8 13. 44.133.233.10 93.5% 62 236.9 238.2 235.2 244.1 4.0 -- Vy73 de EA1HET, Jonathan

El 19 jul 2017, a las 0:37, Leon Zetekoff <wa4zlw(a)backwoodswireless.net> escribió: Hi Jonathan...I can ping but not trace to it...Leon (.10) On 7/18/2017 4:31 PM, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] wrote:

Hi Leon, Maybe the host was down by the user. Try .10 instead. BR. 15:13, July 18, 2017, Leon Zetekoff <wa4zlw(a)backwoodswireless.net> <mailto:wa4zlw@backwoodswireless.net>: Hi Jonathan...i tried to get to you from 44.56.53.3 and it fails.... C:\Users\leonz>tracert 44.133.233.8 Tracing route to 44.133.233.8 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms t30.wa4zlw.homedns.org [10.195.10.3] 2 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms core100.wa4zlw.ampr.org [44.56.53.1] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 ^C C:\Users\leonz> 73 leon On 7/18/2017 9:47 AM, Jonathan Gonzalez [EA1HET] wrote: Hi Marc, I don’t think there’s a minimal spec you should abide to in order to to put to work Net 44 on your site. In my case, where we run a BGP session with Internet and publish our assigned segment, we use a CCR1036 having in memory the full BGP routing table, but even so, this is not a compulsory requirement for you. In example, you can configure a less expensive router with only a default gateway to your ISP and/or to the ISP that runs the BGP session for you (if that would be the case). Our network design follows as a mere example of use (in ASCII art due to list restrictions): _( )_( )_ ( ) x.x.x.x/30 ( ) _( )_( )_(_) ( )_ (_INTERNET_)—( X ) -------------- ( X )-(_44.133.233.0/24 _) (_) (__) ( ) ( ) (_) (__) (__) (_) BGP Local bridged router router w/ firewall Both routers above are Mikrotik CCR1036 (CCR1036-8G-2S+EM) as mentioned before. If you want to launch a traceroute from public Internet, just to demonstrate above setup, you can use 44.133.233.8. radio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> -- Vy73 de EA1HET, Jonathan

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