Chris, E.g. - So if I wanted to request a /24 at this time, what should I do to proceed?Would a second verification be necessary?If it's in the name of a club or RACES organization, what would I need to do to validate (verifiable letters from the government sponsor may be easier than verification of the postal address of these gov't facilities).Lastly I wanted to note, comments being made about deleted PII seem to forget the fact the Portal/process then proceeds to require a Ham to enter a postal address that matches their license/QRZ/whatever. In FCC land at least, such a match is obviously PII (and now matched to public/44net IPs/hostnames associated to an individual).I respect and applaud the notion and the due diligence, I just wanted to clarify that point.I digress in reiterating like others - how the process will become nearly impossible in Europe and other areas, due to growing privacy regulations, requiring the Ham to transfer more PII to ARDC.73,LynwoodKB3VWG
On 16 May 2024, at 12:21, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Chris,
E.g. - So if I wanted to request a /24 at this time, what should I do to proceed?
You can click on the “Request addresses space” link on the home page.
Would a second verification be necessary?
Once your call sign and postal address has been verified you do not need to verify them again if you place subsequent requests for address space.
If it's in the name of a club or RACES organization, what would I need to do to validate (verifiable letters from the government sponsor may be easier than verification of the postal address of these gov't facilities).
Each case is different. Place your request and it will be processed, if any questions crop up the ticket handler will ask you for clarification.
Lastly I wanted to note, comments being made about deleted PII seem to forget the fact the Portal/process then proceeds to require a Ham to enter a postal address that matches their license/QRZ/whatever. In FCC land at least, such a match is obviously PII (and now matched to public/44net IPs/hostnames associated to an individual).
I respect and applaud the notion and the due diligence, I just wanted to clarify that point.
I digress in reiterating like others - how the process will become nearly impossible in Europe and other areas, due to growing privacy regulations, requiring the Ham to transfer more PII to ARDC.
The process is quite straight forward in most countries, yes the ham does have to provide some PII in order to verify their postal address, but once supplied it is deleted, we store the fact that it was verified, we don’t store the actual PII.
In fact if anyone is not comfortable uploading scanned copies of documents containing PII we have another route available, and that is a video call where you can show your documents to the person verifying them. If this is your preferred option just ask this in the ticket when the ticket handler requests the documents.
73, Chris - G1FEF
73,
Lynwood
KB3VWG
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On 2024-05-16 16:33, Chris via 44net wrote:
On 16 May 2024, at 12:21, lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
Chris,
E.g. - So if I wanted to request a /24 at this time, what should I do to proceed?
You can click on the “Request addresses space” link on the home page.
Would a second verification be necessary?
Once your call sign and postal address has been verified you do not need to verify them again if you place subsequent requests for address space.
If it's in the name of a club or RACES organization, what would I need to do to validate (verifiable letters from the government sponsor may be easier than verification of the postal address of these gov't facilities).
Each case is different. Place your request and it will be processed, if any questions crop up the ticket handler will ask you for clarification.
Lastly I wanted to note, comments being made about deleted PII seem to forget the fact the Portal/process then proceeds to require a Ham to enter a postal address that matches their license/QRZ/whatever. In FCC land at least, such a match is obviously PII (and now matched to public/44net IPs/hostnames associated to an individual).
I respect and applaud the notion and the due diligence, I just wanted to clarify that point.
I digress in reiterating like others - how the process will become nearly impossible in Europe and other areas, due to growing privacy regulations, requiring the Ham to transfer more PII to ARDC.
The process is quite straight forward in most countries, yes the ham does have to provide some PII in order to verify their postal address, but once supplied it is deleted, we store the fact that it was verified, we don’t store the actual PII.
In fact if anyone is not comfortable uploading scanned copies of documents containing PII we have another route available, and that is a video call where you can show your documents to the person verifying them. If this is your preferred option just ask this in the ticket when the ticket handler requests the documents.
73, Chris - G1FEF
73,
Lynwood
KB3VWG
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Hello,
Once ARDC validates all the necessary information (Callsign, Email, Mobile, Postal Address) for the BGP requests, is it safe to assume that the process should proceed smoothly, and approval is just a matter of time? Or are there additional steps involved?
Just curious :). Perhaps someone who recently applied can shed some light on the process.
In all those private information laws there are parts that do limit the amount of information an entity need to give a service. But it is also noted that the amont of information needed to deliver a service can and will change or vary depending on the specific service.
A seller of cell phone wont be able to retreive more than what is needed to sell the comunication service. But ARDC need more than what a simple seller of stuff need.
One cannot use that as an excuse to not proof who he/she is and hope to get something in return. What ARDC will need to do is make sure those data are not spread all over the place. And for that I am sure the design of the new portal limit who have access to what. Of for what amount of time the PII will be kept. ( most of the time it is no more than necessary to the intended use it was given for)
On the fact that someone can be ID by information available on ardc portal. Evry time you ID on the air you do the same thing. It is part of being able to use those air waves. Our callsign is a PII but all the laws I have seen about ham radio communication state that the information of the user and station need to be publicly known. If we are to self police our bands, we need that. And the public too.
Pierre
VE2PF
________________________________________ De : lleachii--- via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org Envoyé : 16 mai 2024 07:21 À : Chris via 44net; Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty Objet : [44net] Re: Regarding Address Verification
Chris,
E.g. - So if I wanted to request a /24 at this time, what should I do to proceed?
Would a second verification be necessary?
If it's in the name of a club or RACES organization, what would I need to do to validate (verifiable letters from the government sponsor may be easier than verification of the postal address of these gov't facilities).
Lastly I wanted to note, comments being made about deleted PII seem to forget the fact the Portal/process then proceeds to require a Ham to enter a postal address that matches their license/QRZ/whatever. In FCC land at least, such a match is obviously PII (and now matched to public/44net IPs/hostnames associated to an individual).
I respect and applaud the notion and the due diligence, I just wanted to clarify that point.
I digress in reiterating like others - how the process will become nearly impossible in Europe and other areas, due to growing privacy regulations, requiring the Ham to transfer more PII to ARDC.
73,
Lynwood
KB3VWG
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