On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:26 PM Patrick Thompson via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: Logging into the portal, I saw a notification about a new ticket that had been created related to that; I assume that's for importing the allocation information into the new portal, but I don't have permissions to view the ticket. - Dan C.

Same experience here, no network tab as well... Mark - K9MEV On 4/3/2024 4:58 PM, Patrick Thompson via 44net wrote:

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:15 PM Nathan Brookfield via 44net < 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: Yes. David McAnally WD5M

This didn’t make a difference, in Chrome and Firefox scrolling to the bottom didn’t unlock the elements to select. Nathan Brookfield | VK2NAB Director NAB Investment Holdings Pty Ltd T/A Managed Networks W: http://nabih.com.au<http://nabih.com.au/> | E: Nathan.Brookfield@nabih.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@nabih.com.au> | P: 0412 266 008 From: Charles Holliday &lt;kg5iru(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 9:21 AM To: David McAnally &lt;david.mcanally(a)gmail.com&gt; Cc: Amprnet 44 Net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt;rg>; Dan Cross &lt;crossd(a)gmail.com&gt;om>; Nathan Brookfield &lt;Nathan.Brookfield(a)nabih.com.au&gt;au>; Patrick Thompson &lt;patrick(a)pwthompson.net&gt; Subject: Re: [44net] Re: New 44Net Portal coming 4/3! You have to read the EULA. The page forces you to scroll down to the bottom of the EULA as a way to encourage you to read it. Charles Holliday KG5IRU On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:19 PM David McAnally via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:15 PM Nathan Brookfield via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote: I've received the same, when trying to log-in I got an eULA that I can't actually click to accept, has anyone else had the same issue? Yes. David McAnally WD5M _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org<mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>

Nope, it didn't work, scrolling, different browsers, etc. Firefox console indicated they are using a feature that is probably not going to work well. Looks like they switched back to the old website. More debugging I expect. David McAnally WD5M On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:25 PM Jeff Parrish-Personal &lt;jeff(a)kb9gxk.net&gt; wrote:

Hey folks - Thanks for chiming in about these bugs. They are some of the main ones that we are working on fixing. We'll post more information as soon as we have it. Thank you for your patience! Rosy Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV Executive Director Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) ardc.net On 4/3/24 3:36 PM, Nathan Brookfield via 44net wrote:

The EULA is also outdated, referring to 44net as 44/8. Yes, I read it. Can I suggest a review… On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 23:21, Charles Holliday via 44net < 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote:

Why are we jumping through hoops to get enough points to be "trusted"? Aren't the current users and coordinators trusted enough? You can easily port over the current user list and just start from there with no issues. On 4/3/2024 7:06 PM, Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

Hey All, Just following up on this thread. I've been experiencing issues with the IPIP gateway (amprgw.ucsd.edu, 169.228.34.84) as well. I seem to be able to talk to other members of the mesh but not pass traffic through the gateway or to/from the internet. Similar traceroute to that below. Last working traffic appears to be 3/4 on my end. FYI this is on the subnet 44.72.24.0/24. *Anything change or is it just me?* Mark - K9MEV On 4/3/2024 9:08 PM, Charles Hargrove via 44net wrote:

This trace to my subnet is totally within the IPIP encap routing. What Mark and I are saying is that inbound or outbound trace to a non-44net address that would go through the UCSD gateway have stopped as of the day that the initial "upgrade" to the new portal on Wednesday April 3rd. On 4/5/2024 4:17 PM, Leon Zetekoff via 44net wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

I think we need this to be handled by volunteers as opposed to employees. On 4/5/2024 5:19 PM, Rebecca Key via 44net wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

My "gateway" is in a commercial site and has been totally rebooted today. On 4/5/2024 8:07 PM, kc8qba wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

Nope. It dies before amprgw.ucsd.edu. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.4170] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\n2nov>tracert 44.68.41.1 Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 3 lag-53.nycrnydf01h.netops.charter.com [68.173.201.236] 4 lag-131.nyclnyrg01r.netops.charter.com [68.173.197.0] 5 lag-29.nwrknjmd67w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [107.14.19.24] 6 lag-20.nycmny837aw-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.5.138] 7 lag-12.chcgildt87w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.25] 8 lag-11.snvacaid17w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.14] 9 lag-11.snjucacl67w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.8] 10 lag-0.pr1.sjc10.netops.charter.com [66.109.5.133] 11 eqix-sv5.cenic.com [206.223.117.118] 12 dc-svl-agg8--svl-agg10-300g.cenic.net [137.164.11.81] 13 dc-lax-agg8--svl-agg8--100ge--2.cenic.net [137.164.11.20] 14 dc-tus-agg8--lax-agg8-300g.cenic.net [137.164.11.83] 15 sand1-agg-01--tus-agg8--300g--01.cenic.net [137.164.11.85] 16 ucsd--sand1-agg-01--100g--01.cenic.net [137.164.23.177] 17 nodem-core-6807-vlan2767-gw.ucsd.edu [132.239.254.61] 18 sdsc-7710-7--mcore-vl2995-p2p.ucsd.edu [132.239.255.50] 19 Request timed out. 20 Request timed out. 21 Request timed out. 22 Request timed out. 23 Request timed out. 24 Request timed out. 25 Request timed out. 26 Request timed out. 27 Request timed out. 28 Request timed out. 29 Request timed out. 30 Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\n2nov> On 4/5/2024 10:06 PM, lleachii(a)aol.com wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

All, A copy of the output from my router to http://44.0.0.1 - `mtr 44.0.0.1 -T -P 80`                                                                    My traceroute  [v0.95]user (192.168.xxx.xxx) -> 44.0.0.1 (44.0.0.1)                                                                              2024-04-05T22:50:46-0400Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit                                                                                                                    Packets               Pings Host                                                                                                             Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev 1. OpenWrt.lan                                                                                                    0.0%     6    0.8   1.0   0.8   1.1   0.1 2. lo0-100.WASHDC-VFTTP-352.verizon-gni.net                                                                       0.0%     5    4.4   7.7   1.5  29.3  12.1 3. 100.41.27.188                                                                                                  0.0%     5    3.1   3.1   2.8   3.3   0.2 4. (waiting for reply) 5. (waiting for reply) 6. (waiting for reply) 7. CENIC.ear1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net                                                                              0.0%     5   77.8  71.9  63.8  90.3  11.9 8. dc-lax-agg8--lax-agg10-300g.cenic.net                                                                          0.0%     5   68.6  78.8  67.5 101.5  15.5 9. dc-tus-agg8--lax-agg8-300g.cenic.net                                                                           0.0%     5   67.4  66.9  64.8  67.7   1.210. sand1-agg-01--tus-agg8--300g--01.cenic.net                                                                     0.0%     5   69.1  67.4  66.5  69.1   1.011. ucsd--sand1-agg-01--100g--01.cenic.net                                                                         0.0%     5   66.7  67.2  66.4  70.1   1.612. nodem-core-6807-vlan2767-gw.ucsd.edu                                                                           0.0%     5   65.9  66.5  65.2  67.2   0.913. sdsc-7710-7--mcore-vl2995-p2p.ucsd.edu                                                                         0.0%     5   67.4  67.3  67.0  67.7   0.314. gw.ampr.org                                                                                                    0.0%     5   68.0  66.9  66.3  68.0   0.6 On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 10:38:35 PM EDT, lleachii--- via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: Charles, It's unclear what you mean by your response "Nope. It dies before amprgw.ucsd.edu". Your trace is not using port 80/tcp. As my trace shows - using 80/tcp and not ICMP or UDP as other tools such as 'tracert', I'm able to reach AMPRGW thru to my HTTP server 44.60.44.10 from numerous ISP and cell networks. I agree that it seems ingressing ICMP and UDP are having issues (and all egressing traffic), but I'm attempting to note that 80/tcp is working. Have you tested the HTTP links to 44.60.44.10 a normal cellular phone data connection, your, home ISP, etc.? --- - Lynwood On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 10:21:12 PM EDT, Charles Hargrove via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: Nope. It dies before amprgw.ucsd.edu. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.4170] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\n2nov>tracert 44.68.41.1 Tracing route to n2nov.ampr.org [44.68.41.1] over a maximum of 30 hops:   3  lag-53.nycrnydf01h.netops.charter.com [68.173.201.236]   4  lag-131.nyclnyrg01r.netops.charter.com [68.173.197.0]   5  lag-29.nwrknjmd67w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [107.14.19.24]   6  lag-20.nycmny837aw-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.5.138]   7  lag-12.chcgildt87w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.25]   8  lag-11.snvacaid17w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.14]   9  lag-11.snjucacl67w-bcr00.netops.charter.com [66.109.6.8]   10  lag-0.pr1.sjc10.netops.charter.com [66.109.5.133]   11  eqix-sv5.cenic.com [206.223.117.118]   12  dc-svl-agg8--svl-agg10-300g.cenic.net [137.164.11.81]   13  dc-lax-agg8--svl-agg8--100ge--2.cenic.net [137.164.11.20]   14  dc-tus-agg8--lax-agg8-300g.cenic.net [137.164.11.83]   15  sand1-agg-01--tus-agg8--300g--01.cenic.net [137.164.11.85]   16  ucsd--sand1-agg-01--100g--01.cenic.net [137.164.23.177]   17  nodem-core-6807-vlan2767-gw.ucsd.edu [132.239.254.61]   18  sdsc-7710-7--mcore-vl2995-p2p.ucsd.edu [132.239.255.50]   19  Request timed out.   20  Request timed out.   21  Request timed out.   22  Request timed out.   23  Request timed out.   24  Request timed out.   25  Request timed out.   26  Request timed out.   27  Request timed out.   28  Request timed out.   29  Request timed out.   30  Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\n2nov> On 4/5/2024 10:06 PM, lleachii(a)aol.com wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org

I have just tested ICMP from inside the IPIP mesh to the Internet and it’s working for me: ping -I 44.63.7.215 1.1.1.1 PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) from 44.63.7.215 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=142 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=141 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=142 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=142 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=55 time=142 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=55 time=142 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=55 time=142 ms Can someone confirm if this is still an issue so I can diagnose further Thanks Chris - G1FEF

Chris, Another interesting observation occurred when testing egress from my LAN and router with various SRC IPs. My LAN is configured with a SNAT and IP/Rules to use 44.60.44.128 for traffic from a certain LAN SRC IP is set on the client. * With my usual SNAT setting of SRC 44.60.44.128 - ping DOESN'T WORK* When pining from the router with 44.60.44.1 and changing the LAN SNAT rule to also use SRC 44.60.44.1 - ping WORKS root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 5 1.1.1.1 -I 44.60.44.1PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) from 44.60.44.1: 56 data bytes64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=0 ttl=55 time=67.178 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=1 ttl=55 time=65.657 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=2 ttl=55 time=65.435 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=3 ttl=55 time=65.314 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=4 ttl=55 time=65.462 ms --- 1.1.1.1 ping statistics ---5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet lossround-trip min/avg/max = 65.314/65.809/67.178 ms --- - LynwoodKB3VWG

Chris, I recall something similar occurring during the lifetime of the late Brian Kantor. Is AMPRGW still a 10 Gbps BSD kernel? - Lynwood If it helps - from the late Brian Kantor, SK - Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 5:12 PM I found a possible source of memory corruption - a hash routinemight have returned a negative number, causing the flow statsgathering to index off the beginning of a large array thatappears in memory adjacent to the routing table.  This mighthave resulted in an entry being stomped on.  I don't know. But the hash routine won't return negative or too large numbersanymore.  I did fix that.  We'll see if that prevents the problemfrom recurring.  I'd hate to have to go through 16 million routeentries in a core dump.    - Brian On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 11:12:16AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote:> On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 02:03:56PM -0400, lleachii--- via 44Net wrote:> > From my perspective, I stop seeing all inbound Internet traffic from AMPRGW> > to 44.60.44.0/24, except for the intermittent data to another subnet (now> > 44.62.1.81). I transmit, and never receive replies.> > Although, I'm still able to send and receive traffic to/from the other 44> > GWs.>> Thanks, that helps.  I checked, and the on-disk copy of the routing> table is still correct even when this is happening, so I'm beginning> to suspect memory corruption in the router software itself.>> As you know, that's difficult to find, but I'm looking through the> code to make sure I haven't done any of the usual errors.  The next> time it happens, I'll take a core dump of the running process and> see if that tells me anything.  Be sure to let me know.>     - Brian

So, we are in the process of moving the primary nameserver away from the UCSD gateway server so all it will be left with is acting as the IPIP encap/de-encap gateway function + rip44d, so don’t rely on doing zone transfers from that server for much longer. As to your egress problem, I checked on the gateway and your 44.60.44.128 IP is not in the filter list but your 44.60.44.1 IP is, that’s why it’s not working for 44.60.44.128. What is the A record hostname for that IP supposed to be? I can check if it’s in the zonefile or not - likely not - was it added only recently? 73, Chris - G1FEF — ARDC Administrator Web: https://www.ardc.net

Chris, Also, you noted: "don’t rely on doing zone transfers from that server for much longer." Please provide an Authoritative Public DNS server that accepts Zone Transfers either on AMPRNet or Public. To my knowledge gw.ampr.org was the only one. ---  73, LynwoodKB3VWG On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 12:48:41 PM EDT, lleachii(a)aol.com &lt;lleachii(a)aol.com&gt; wrote: Chris, "What is the A record hostname for that IP supposed to be? I can check if it’s in the zonefile or not - likely not - was it added only recently?" That's the issue, it was not added recently- it's been there for years, since I first devised my internal network plan years ago: kb3vwg-128.ampr.org user@machine:~$ nslookup 44.60.44.128 44.0.0.1128.44.60.44.in-addr.arpa       name = kb3vwg-128.ampr.org. It is in the zone file. - Lynwood On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 12:41:29 PM EDT, Chris via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: So, we are in the process of moving the primary nameserver away from the UCSD gateway server so all it will be left with is acting as the IPIP encap/de-encap gateway function + rip44d, so don’t rely on doing zone transfers from that server for much longer. As to your egress problem, I checked on the gateway and your 44.60.44.128 IP is not in the filter list but your 44.60.44.1 IP is, that’s why it’s not working for 44.60.44.128. What is the A record hostname for that IP supposed to be? I can check if it’s in the zonefile or not - likely not - was it added only recently? 73, Chris - G1FEF — ARDC Administrator Web: https://www.ardc.net On 6 Apr 2024, at 12:02, lleachii--- via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: Chris, I suspect some failure in the location that maintains what AMPR IPs have DNS entries - hence allowing FORWARD on AMPRGW. Rationale: * My ingress TCP traces are blocked for 44.60.44.128, yet work for 44.60.44.1, 44.60.44.3 and 44.60.44.10 - On a side note, I also observe that on my DNS server (44.60.44.3) - that the 44.in-addr.arpa Zone seems to be failing (checking logs). I can no longer get authoritative answers, but I can still query 44.0.0.1 and get Zone Transfers (port 53/TCP) for AMPR.ORG. Was the Reverse Zone edited somehow? - Lynwood On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 05:47:53 AM EDT, lleachii(a)aol.com &lt;lleachii(a)aol.com&gt; wrote: Chris, Another interesting observation occurred when testing egress from my LAN and router with various SRC IPs. My LAN is configured with a SNAT and IP/Rules to use 44.60.44.128 for traffic from a certain LAN SRC IP is set on the client. * With my usual SNAT setting of SRC 44.60.44.128 - ping DOESN'T WORK* When pining from the router with 44.60.44.1 and changing the LAN SNAT rule to also use SRC 44.60.44.1 - ping WORKS root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 5 1.1.1.1 -I 44.60.44.1PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) from 44.60.44.1: 56 data bytes64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=0 ttl=55 time=67.178 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=1 ttl=55 time=65.657 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=2 ttl=55 time=65.435 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=3 ttl=55 time=65.314 ms64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: seq=4 ttl=55 time=65.462 ms --- 1.1.1.1 ping statistics ---5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet lossround-trip min/avg/max = 65.314/65.809/67.178 ms --- - LynwoodKB3VWG _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org

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Seems to be working now. On 4/6/2024 1:33 PM, Chris via 44net wrote: -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. 44net Coordinator - Northeast USA NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan

Yep, hit me too! 73 - Bdale, KB0G On April 3, 2024 4:15:24 PM MDT, Nathan Brookfield via 44net &lt;44net(a)mailman.ampr.org&gt; wrote: