Hi
If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host, the
traffic is not forwarded in either direction.
Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my subnet?
Thanks Tom M0LTE
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database.
On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote:
Hi
If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host,
the traffic is not forwarded in either direction.
Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 http://44.61.31.1/27), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my subnet?
Thanks Tom M0LTE
This is only the case for inbound traffic off the Internet thru UCSD. Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record as will traffic in both directions directly to other gateways.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 3:17 PM Charles Hargrove via 44net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database.
On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote:
Hi
If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host,
the traffic is not forwarded in either direction.
Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 http://44.61.31.1/27), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my subnet?
Thanks Tom M0LTE
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44net Coordinator - Northeast USA
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"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
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Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record
Out of interest does that include replies, i.e it's stateful?
Cheers
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 11:25 PM Steve L via 44net 44net@mailman.ampr.org wrote:
This is only the case for inbound traffic off the Internet thru UCSD. Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record as will traffic in both directions directly to other gateways.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 3:17 PM Charles Hargrove via 44net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database.
On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote:
Hi
If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host,
the traffic is not forwarded in either direction.
Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 http://44.61.31.1/27), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my subnet?
Thanks Tom M0LTE
-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
44net Coordinator - Northeast USA
NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32
"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
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It's stateful
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 6:54 PM Matthew H (2E0SIP) 44net@marrold.co.uk wrote:
Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record
Out of interest does that include replies, i.e it's stateful?
Cheers
Better to have a standardized way for all than cause confusion for newbies. There is no harm in creating an A record for each IP. So what if it is unused.
On 9/23/2023 6:24 PM, Steve L wrote:
This is only the case for inbound traffic off the Internet thru UCSD. Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record as will traffic in both directions directly to other gateways.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 3:17 PM Charles Hargrove via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database. On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote: > Hi > > > If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host, > the traffic is not forwarded in either direction. > > Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27> > <http://44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27>>), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my > subnet? > > Thanks > Tom M0LTE
As a newbie, this bit of the process hasn’t been particularly transparent.
I’ve got a wiki account and I’m not afraid to use it.
But it could make sense for every IP to get an entry by default, eg:
44.61.31.1 -> 1-31-61.m0lte.ampr.org
or something. Then things would work as expected, out of the box. And reverse dns could be used to quickly identify an owner. CNAMEs could be added if something more descriptive is desired.
Just observations of an outsider.
Tom
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 at 01:04, Charles Hargrove via 44net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Better to have a standardized way for all than cause confusion for newbies. There is no harm in creating an A record for each IP. So what if it is unused.
On 9/23/2023 6:24 PM, Steve L wrote:
This is only the case for inbound traffic off the Internet thru UCSD. Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record as will traffic in both directions directly to other gateways.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 3:17 PM Charles Hargrove via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database. On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote: > Hi > > > If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host, > the traffic is not forwarded in either direction. > > Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27> > <http://44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27>>), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my > subnet? > > Thanks > Tom M0LTE-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
44net Coordinator - Northeast USA
NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32
"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
There is a lot of background noise on the Internet. So if a /24 lan is pointed at a gateway, it makes sense to have a per host inbound traffic filter. The reserved /24 for the lan, may only have half the on air hosts for now, and the rest of the address space is for future growth. The other thing is most people do not (or not historically) have a symetric internet connection.
On Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 3:41 AM Tom M0LTE tom@m0lte.uk wrote:
As a newbie, this bit of the process hasn’t been particularly transparent.
I’ve got a wiki account and I’m not afraid to use it.
But it could make sense for every IP to get an entry by default, eg:
44.61.31.1 -> 1-31-61.m0lte.ampr.org
or something. Then things would work as expected, out of the box. And reverse dns could be used to quickly identify an owner. CNAMEs could be added if something more descriptive is desired.
Just observations of an outsider.
Tom
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 at 01:04, Charles Hargrove via 44net < 44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Better to have a standardized way for all than cause confusion for newbies. There is no harm in creating an A record for each IP. So what if it is unused.
On 9/23/2023 6:24 PM, Steve L wrote:
This is only the case for inbound traffic off the Internet thru UCSD. Outbound thru UCSD to the Internet will work without a DNS record as will traffic in both directions directly to other gateways.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 3:17 PM Charles Hargrove via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Every single 44net IP address needs an A record to be routed. Your coordinator needs to add this to the database. On 9/22/2023 1:34 PM, Tom M0LTE via 44net wrote: > Hi > > > If there is no DNS A record for a tunneled amprnet destination host, > the traffic is not forwarded in either direction. > > Does this mean a single A record for my gateway (44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27> > <http://44.61.31.1/27 <http://44.61.31.1/27>>), or multiple A records, one for each IP of my > subnet? > > Thanks > Tom M0LTE-- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.
44net Coordinator - Northeast USA
NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32
"Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus
"Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.)
"No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan _______________________________________________ 44net mailing list -- 44net@mailman.ampr.org To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org
The TAC has several DNS/rDNS tasks to sort out, and some proposals have been submitted. This will get some attention over the coming months.
If you haven't done so already, please consider joining https://ardc.groups.io/g/44net
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