Hello All,
FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server last week:
The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all the services associated with the mailing list continued to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden reboot had corrupted several open files associated with the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for several days.
Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only set to a few days and by the time the issue was investigated all the available backups were of the corrupted files.
As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated the 44net list there.
I am pleased to report that the archives from the old server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of data there thankfully.
The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found here:
https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
The MX record has been updated to point to the new server, so you should continue to send emails to 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org to post to the list.
I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it has provided excellent service to the community. John is going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the 44net mailing list on it’s new home.
Best 73,
Chris - G1FEF
Well, there are some interesting comments. One being the cost of
service. If you look at the discourse link, right away it says it is
$100 per month, so it is not free. And if they were to decide this group
was a business then it is $300 per month. Still not free. Trying to find
pricing for groups.io shows starting at $20 per month for up to 500
members. I don't have any idea how many members there may be to this group.
A few have said they don't want anything that is "cloud based". Anything
you get from the internet is "cloud based" one way or another.
A few years ago when most of the groups were jumping from Yahoo some of
the groups talked about google. That is probably one of the worst places
to go to. I, along with several others in several groups said if they
went to google we would drop out. That hasn't changed for me. Trust
google for much of anything? Good luck with that.
A bit of my experience with groups.io. For those who like the digest, it
works, for those who like to get email, it works, for those who just
want to look at the messages in the group, it works. It works well for
archive and searching. A couple of other good features, it allows an
email receiver to limit attachment size (for those inconsiderate people
who think they have to send an image that is 10 megs and larger) so
instead it sends a link for the attachment. Also, if a user is no longer
interested in getting email about a subject, it allows that user to mute
the subject, which means they don't get any more emails about it. Since
I don't manage any groups, I'm sure there are several management tools
available to manage the group.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 06:53:23 PM
Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
> Discourse.
>
> http://sykly.smtpclick.com/tracking/qaR9ZGLlBQp5ZmxjZQVjZQR4ZGp2ZPM5qzS4qaR…
>
> Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
>
> Rosy
>
> Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
> Executive Director
> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> ampr.org
>
> On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
> > Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but
not the
> > user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even if I try to
perform
> > password recovery, I get the following message:
> >
> > "The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
> >
> > Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google
Groups
> > or Groups.io instead of having someone host a Mailman server?
> >
> > Jeff Hochberg
> > W4JEW
> > Atlanta, GA
> > jeff(a)w4jew.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
> >
> > I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman.
> > The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user ("
> > The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ")
> >
> > Mike / AA8IA
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold > > > wrote:
> >
> > Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to
> > login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a
> > user when I try to reset my password.
> >
> > 73 de KM8V
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
> >
> > Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard
> > to email reputation.
> >
> > SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC
> > record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the
> > list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended
> > up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC all failed.
> >
> > 2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org SPF record
> >
> > and it appears themailman.ampr.org emails are being signed with
anARDC.NET DKIM key rather than amailman.ampr.org DKIM key
> >
> > Mike / AA8IA
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server last week:
> >
> > The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an
> > unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all
> > the services associated with the mailing list continued
> > to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our
> > systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden
> > reboot had corrupted several open files associated with
> > the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net
> > mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often
> > goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for
> > several days.
> >
> > Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only
> > set to a few days and by the time the issue was
> > investigated all the available backups were of the
> > corrupted files.
> >
> > As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the
> > older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest
> > Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the
> > mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman
> > 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated
> > the 44net list there.
> >
> > I am pleased to report that the archives from the old
> > server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of
> > data there thankfully.
> >
> > The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found
> > here:
> >
> >
http://sykly.smtpclick.com/tracking/qaR9ZGLlBQp5ZmxjZQVjZQR4ZGp2ZPM5qzS4qaR…
> >
> >
> > The MX record has been updated to point to the new
> > server, so you should continue to send emails to
> > 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> > to post to the list.
> >
> > I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for
> > hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash
> > in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it
> > has provided excellent service to the community. John is
> > going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the
> > 44net mailing list on it’s new home.
> >
> > Best 73,
> > Chris - G1FEF
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> > To unsubscribe send an email to
> > 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> > To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> > To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> >
> >
> >
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> > To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
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Hi all,
We are currently announcing the Corsican Internet subnet
(44.190.11.0/24) via a Vultr VPS ($5/mo), which is one of the cheapest
and easiest way I know. We have an iBGP (internal) session with them,
and they announce our addresses from their public AS.
We are developing the network on our island. We'd like to have redundant
BGP announcement from two different locations and/or from two different
providers. We have several BGP capable providers.
Questions :
- Does that mean we need to have our own AS number ?
- If so, what's the best way to obtain such an AS number ? Does ARDC
provide public AS numbers ? Or do we have to get one from regular
Internet LIR ?
- If so, does that mean I won't be able to use Vultr anymore (because
Vultr announces our IPs from their AS, and AFAIK, they do not allow to
announce from our own AS) ?
Thank you in advance.
73 de TK1BI
Hi all,
I tried to post a message on "44ngn(a)mailman.ampr.org", but I received a
NDR. I think it may have something to deal with recent crash/migration
of the mailman server.
It seems the same occurs for "44net-fr(a)mailman.ampr.org"
Kind regards, 73 de TK1BI.
-------- Message transféré --------
Sujet : Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Date : Sun, 24 Apr 2022 09:40:27 +0100
De : Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON(a)mailman.ardc.net>
Pour : t.ottavi(a)bc-109.com
This is the mail system at host mailman.ardc.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<44ngn(a)mailman.ampr.org>: mail for mailman.ampr.org loops back to myself
All,
I starting to like what happened here a little better. I'm now subscribe to this mail list more correctly in that I have a login and 'profile.'
Had to unsubscribe and re-sub to the 44Net here: https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/ after creating a profile (a new login).
Now I am able select digest/no digest and a few other options.
I also have a few as in several mail lists on Groups.io and find it quite useable. But what really defines a usefulness of a list has more to
do with user participation in sharing of their knowledge in a useful manner. A clean and clear user interface can help with that. Also a bad
UX interface can wreck that experience.
73,
David
--
David Billsbrough -- Amateur Radio Callsign: KC4ZVW
Chuluota, Florida * grid square: EL98kp * https://www.kc4zvw.us/
ARRL * AVR * BeagleBone * FreeBSD * Linux * PICmicro * RASPI * TAPR
About a month ago (maybe slightly more now) my gateway stopped working
correctly. It had been running without issues for about a year.
I'm using a Ubiquity erX running ampr-ripd, using Marius's directions
on the wiki. (BTW, ampr.org looks to have a php issue at present)
The erX was connected directly to my modem. Since then I have rebuilt
the setup a few times after it stopped working correctly. Currently I
have two erX's setup. Modem -> erX (DNAT protocol 4 to LAN IP) -> AMPR
erX running ampr-ripd. This way I can mess with the AMPR settings
without annoying the rest of the household!
On the AMPR erX I have 729 routes showing.
44.68.180.14/32 is my tunnel IP
44.68.180.1/28 is erX eth port
traceroutes to these two seem to work correctly.
traceroute to 44.68.180.1 (44.68.180.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 gw.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.1) 159.637 ms
But to 44.68.180.2 & 3 (linux box & JNOS)
I have '-a 44.0.0.1/8' in the ampr-ripd shell script. I have also tried
adding my /28 in there too.
If I have my subnet in the ampr-ripd config the traceroutes try and go
through n2nov's gw in a loop.
Public traceroute
<snip>
13.|-- 132.239.255.50 0.0% 4 145.4 145.4 145.3 145.6 0.1
14.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
15.|-- 44.68.180.1 0.0% 4 235.1 243.3 235.1 261.6 12.3
16.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 190.9 190.9 190.9 190.9 0.0
17.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 275.8 275.8 275.8 275.8 0.0
18.|-- 162.247.76.189 0.0% 4 228.6 227.1 224.1 229.6 2.5
19.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 324.7 324.7 324.7 324.7 0.0
20.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 273.7 273.7 273.7 273.7 0.0
21.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 341.9 341.9 341.9 341.9 0.0
22.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 298.0 298.0 298.0 298.0 0.0
23.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 391.8 391.8 391.8 391.8 0.0
24.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 338.0 338.0 338.0 338.0 0.0
25.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 449.6 449.6 449.6 449.6 0.0
26.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 380.3 380.3 380.3 380.3 0.0
27.|-- 44.68.180.1 75.0% 4 480.6 480.6 480.6 480.6 0.0
28.|-- 162.247.76.189 75.0% 4 455.0 455.0 455.0 455.0 0.0
29.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
from yo2tm's nettools page
traceroute to 44.68.180.3 (44.68.180.3), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 160.011 ms
2 *
3 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 209.015 ms
4 *
5 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 245.680 ms
6 *
7 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 290.880 ms
8 *
9 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 331.616 ms
10 *
11 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 355.260 ms
12 *
13 *
14 *
15 *
16 *
17 *
18 *
19 *
20 *
21 *
22 *
23 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 565.771 ms
24 *
25 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 629.763 ms
26 *
27 tun.k1ymi.ampr.org (44.68.180.14) 661.471 ms
28 *
29 *
30 *
If I remove my subnet the traceroute goes nowhere.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I am missing ??
73 Andrew, K1YMI
Another vote against discourse. groups.io seems to be pretty great tho,
lots of ham organizations using it. You can interact via the web or via
email.
73 de KM8V
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:09 PM <44net-request(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
> Send 44net mailing list submissions to
> 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or
> body 'help' to
> 44net-request(a)mailman.ampr.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 44net-owner(a)mailman.ampr.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of 44net digest..."Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Mailman migration (Jim Kutsch KY2D)
> 2. Re: Mailman migration (Damien Gardner)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jim Kutsch KY2D <Jim.Kutsch(a)ky2d.com>
> To: <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:03:07 -0400
> Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
> Hi,
> Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion system, not
> email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new rather than just
> having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I find it like having an
> inconvenient PO Box that you have to intentionally go visit to see if
> anything is there vs. mail being delivered to my home mailbox.
>
> 73 Jim KY2D
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53
> To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
> Discourse.
>
> https://www.discourse.org/
>
> Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
>
> Rosy
>
> Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
> Executive Director
> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> ampr.org
>
> On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
> > Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but not the
> > user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even if I try to perform
> > password recovery, I get the following message:
> >
> > "The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
> >
> > Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google Groups
> > or Groups.io instead of having someone host a Mailman server?
> >
> > Jeff Hochberg
> > W4JEW
> > Atlanta, GA
> > jeff(a)w4jew.com <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman.
> > The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user ("
> > The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ")
> >
> > Mike / AA8IA
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon(a)anhold.com
> > <mailto:jon@anhold.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to
> > login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a
> > user when I try to reset my password.
> >
> > 73 de KM8V
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard
> > to email reputation.
> >
> > SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC
> > record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the
> > list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended
> > up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC all
> failed.
> >
> > 2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org <
> http://mailman.ampr.org> SPF record
> >
> > and it appears themailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org>
> emails are being signed with anARDC.NET <http://ARDC.NET> DKIM key
> rather than amailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org> DKIM key
> >
> > Mike / AA8IA
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net
> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server last
> week:
> >
> > The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an
> > unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all
> > the services associated with the mailing list continued
> > to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our
> > systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden
> > reboot had corrupted several open files associated with
> > the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net
> > mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often
> > goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for
> > several days.
> >
> > Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only
> > set to a few days and by the time the issue was
> > investigated all the available backups were of the
> > corrupted files.
> >
> > As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the
> > older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest
> > Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the
> > mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman
> > 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated
> > the 44net list there.
> >
> > I am pleased to report that the archives from the old
> > server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of
> > data there thankfully.
> >
> > The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found
> > here:
> >
> >
> https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
> > <
> https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/>
> >
> > The MX record has been updated to point to the new
> > server, so you should continue to send emails to
> > 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
> > to post to the list.
> >
> > I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for
> > hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash
> > in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it
> > has provided excellent service to the community. John is
> > going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the
> > 44net mailing list on it’s new home.
> >
> > Best 73,
> > Chris - G1FEF
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 44net mailing list -- 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
> > <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
> > To unsubscribe send an email to
> > 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> > <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
> > To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> > <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>
> >
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> > <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
> > To unsubscribe send an email to 44net-leave(a)mailman.ampr.org
> > <mailto:44net-leave@mailman.ampr.org>
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Damien Gardner <vk2tdg(a)gmail.com>
> To: Jim Kutsch KY2D <Jim.Kutsch(a)ky2d.com>
> Cc: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:08:59 +1000
> Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
> Yeah I'm just adding my vote for please god, do NOT move to discourse.
> SAGE-AU moved to discourse a couple of years ago, and it killed the
> organisation. As it turned out, like 90% of the members REALLY like email,
> and had absolutely no interest in moving their conversations to a web
> message board. As much as discourse likes to say it supports email, it
> really doesn't do a good job of it, and with members cracking the shits and
> leaving, SAGE-AU went broke last year, and now we don't have a peak body
> for IT Professionals in Australia.
>
> --DG
>
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 11:03, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44net <
> 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion system,
>> not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new rather than
>> just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I find it like having an
>> inconvenient PO Box that you have to intentionally go visit to see if
>> anything is there vs. mail being delivered to my home mailbox.
>>
>> 73 Jim KY2D
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53
>> To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
>> Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
>>
>> Hey Jeff,
>>
>> Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
>> Discourse.
>>
>> https://www.discourse.org/
>>
>> Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
>>
>> Rosy
>>
>> Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
>> Executive Director
>> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
>> ampr.org
>>
>> On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
>> > Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over, but not
>> the
>> > user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even if I try to perform
>> > password recovery, I get the following message:
>> >
>> > "The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
>> >
>> > Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google
>> Groups
>> > or Groups.io instead of having someone host a Mailman server?
>> >
>> > Jeff Hochberg
>> > W4JEW
>> > Atlanta, GA
>> > jeff(a)w4jew.com <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
>> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to mailman.
>> > The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid user ("
>> > The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ")
>> >
>> > Mike / AA8IA
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon(a)anhold.com
>> > <mailto:jon@anhold.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to
>> > login via the web interface to change it - it says I am not a
>> > user when I try to reset my password.
>> >
>> > 73 de KM8V
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
>> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks like there might be a little more to do, with regard
>> > to email reputation.
>> >
>> > SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published DMARC
>> > record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So the
>> > list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they ended
>> > up in my Gmail spam folder) because SPF/DKIM/DMARC all
>> failed.
>> >
>> > 2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org <
>> http://mailman.ampr.org> SPF record
>> >
>> > and it appears themailman.ampr.org <
>> http://mailman.ampr.org> emails are being signed with anARDC.NET <
>> http://ARDC.NET> DKIM key rather than amailman.ampr.org <
>> http://mailman.ampr.org> DKIM key
>> >
>> > Mike / AA8IA
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net
>> > <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server last
>> week:
>> >
>> > The server the mailing list is hosted on experienced an
>> > unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and all
>> > the services associated with the mailing list continued
>> > to run, so Nagios (the application we use to monitor our
>> > systems) did not report any issues. However, the sudden
>> > reboot had corrupted several open files associated with
>> > the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net
>> > mailing list was not passing emails. As the list often
>> > goes through quiet periods this was not noticed for
>> > several days.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately the backup period for the server was only
>> > set to a few days and by the time the issue was
>> > investigated all the available backups were of the
>> > corrupted files.
>> >
>> > As the longer term plan was always to migrate from the
>> > older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest
>> > Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the
>> > mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a Mailman
>> > 3 server for some internal mailing lists, so we migrated
>> > the 44net list there.
>> >
>> > I am pleased to report that the archives from the old
>> > server were successfully migrated over, so no loss of
>> > data there thankfully.
>> >
>> > The web interface for the new home of 44net can be found
>> > here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
>> > <
>> https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > The MX record has been updated to point to the new
>> > server, so you should continue to send emails to
>> > 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
>> > to post to the list.
>> >
>> > I want to take this opportunity to thank John - KI5D for
>> > hosting the mailing list since we had the last big crash
>> > in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking after it
>> > has provided excellent service to the community. John is
>> > going to continue to help out by acting as admin for the
>> > 44net mailing list on it’s new home.
>> >
>> > Best 73,
>> > Chris - G1FEF
>> >
>> >
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This email is for Steve L and anyone else that can point me in the right direction.
Steve can you send me the information (maybe the image) and setup for the Pi? I now have a few people here that may be able to help me out.
My intent is to attach a network storage device, camera, and maybe at 222 Mhz radio. On the radio, I am looking fir suggestions.
Thanks all.
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> 1. Re: Raspberry Pi AMPRNet IPIP Gateway quit working (Steve L)
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>From: Steve L <kb9mwr(a)gmail.com>
>To: 44Net general discussion <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
>Sent: Sun Apr 03 18:28:13 EDT 2022
>Subject: Re: [44net] Raspberry Pi AMPRNet IPIP Gateway quit working
>
>Is your router, yours or something provided by your ISP? I've never
>been a fan of the latter. Some of their wonderful firmware updates
>aren't so wonderful when you're trying to do something unusual like
>pass protocol 4.
>
>I'd run tcpdump to be sure your router/modem is passing
>ipencap/protocol 4 to your ampr gateway.
>
>tcpdump -vvv -s0 -n proto ipencap
>
>
>On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 1:11 PM Komkit Listisard via 44Net
><44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>>
>> No, my WAN IP stays the same for the past 4 years. Even when I did
>the
>> heavy up at the house 2 years ago, when we were done the IP was still
>> the same.
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2022 1:16 PM, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44Net wrote:
>> > Do you have your ISP-leased IP address hard coded somewhere and
>after the power outage, they gave you a different IP address?
>> >
>> > 73 Jim KY2D
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: 44Net <44net-bounces+jim.kutsch=ky2d.com(a)mailman.ampr.org> On
>Behalf Of Komkit Listisard via 44Net
>> > Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2022 12:48
>> > To: Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
>> > Cc: Komkit Listisard <w3kit(a)yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [44net] Raspberry Pi AMPRNet IPIP Gateway quit working
>> >
>> > Net 44 came though eth0, I have a separate eth1 connecting through
>> > switch and routed Net 44 there. Same as before, everything was
>working
>> > fine until the power went out yesterday.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/3/2022 12:08 PM, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote:
>> >> Why is your lan and wlan both connected to the same network?
>> >> That’ll give issues, if you want to share your 44 with your radio
>network then disconnect the lan interface from your normal network or
>give it a static ip in your 44 subnet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> ON3RVH
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On 3 Apr 2022, at 17:50, David Ranch via 44Net
><44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you running an iptables firewall and you're allowing protocol
>4 allowed through? Run "sudo iptables -L" to see if a firewall is
>active and it's loaded ruleset.
>> >>>
>> >>> --David
>> >>> KI6ZHD
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 04/03/2022 06:25 AM, Komkit Listisard via 44Net wrote:
>> >>>> Marius,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes I did DMZ but 192.168.80.196 (eth0) instead of 191 (wlan0).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 73, Kit
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 4/3/2022 9:18 AM, Marius Petrescu via 44Net wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Kit,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It seems you se a router to connect the Pi to the internet. Do
>you have a protocol 4 forward or a DMZ to 192.168.80.191 set up in that
>router?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Marius, YO2LOJ
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 03/04/2022 16:03, Komkit Listisard via 44Net wrote:
>> >>>>>> Folks, I have my Gateway up and running for weeks. Yesterday
>power went out and after that my Gateway stopped working. Burn new
>image and starting it all over again, no cigar.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Swapped new Raspberry Pi, replaced power supply. Internet
>connections anywhere in the house are working normally.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Tried running ampr-ripd again but never got past "Waiting for
>RIPv2 broadcasts..."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What should I be looking into next?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> root@44GW:/home/r0ot# ampr-ripd -v -d -i tunl0
>> >>>>>> Using metric 0 for routes.
>> >>>>>> Using TCP window 840 for routes.
>> >>>>>> Using routing table 'main' (254).
>> >>>>>> Loaded 733 entries from /var/lib/ampr-ripd/encap.txt
>> >>>>>> Max list size: 1000 entries
>> >>>>>> Detected tunnel interface address: 44.60.73.14
>> >>>>>> Interface detected: lo, IP: 127.0.0.1
>> >>>>>> Interface detected: eth0, IP: 192.168.80.196
>> >>>>>> Interface detected: eth1, IP: 44.60.73.1
>> >>>>>> Interface detected: wlan0, IP: 192.168.80.191
>> >>>>>> Interface detected: tunl0, IP: 44.60.73.14
>> >>>>>> Assigned tunnel interface index: 5
>> >>>>>> Local IPs:
>> >>>>>> 127.0.0.1
>> >>>>>> 192.168.80.196
>> >>>>>> 44.60.73.1
>> >>>>>> 192.168.80.191
>> >>>>>> 44.60.73.14
>> >>>>>> Using gateway 192.168.80.1 for direct 44net endpoints via
>interface eth0.
>> >>>>>> Setting routes (733).
>> >>>>>> Creating multicast RIP UDP listening socket.
>> >>>>>> Setting up multicast interface.
>> >>>>>> Waiting for RIPv2 broadcasts...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ---
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 73, Kit
>> >>>>>>
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