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Re: [44net] Brian Kantor, WB6CYT, SK
by Fortney, Jim - K6IYK 23 Nov '19

23 Nov '19

It is with great sorrow that we learn of Brian's passing. For dozens of years he has worked in support of Amateur Radio and gone far beyond what could be expected of an individual to make Amateur Radio digital operations a success. In the early years he almost single-handedly insured that the interface with the educational and commercial worlds were properly managed. As Phil stated, it will be impossible for us to replace the talent and knowledge he has provided. This event presents another opportunity for us to learn how to work together for success in the future. It is critical that those of us still around, including those of us from the Southern California Digital Coordination Council days, endeavor to pass on all that has been learned. There are less and less of those Don listed still with us. I for one think that ARDC can play an important role in ensuring our continued success. Thank You Brian, - JimF K6IYK At 11/22/2019 05:19 PM, Donald Jacob via 44Net wrote: >Phil, et al, >Very sad news. I first met Brian (and you) at the SCDCC (Southern >California Digital Coordinating Council) >in the early 80's. Had great get togethers at NK6K, Harold's house after >TRW swapmeets, along with Wally, WA6JPR >Mike Brock, Skip WB6YMH and many others back in the beginning days of >digital in amateur radio. As AMPR coordinator for >Los Angeles I did email Brian periodically, but not nearly enough. We have >lost a true friend of amateur radio and >AMPR. >Please pass along any information if there will be any service. > >RIP Brian, thanks for your guidance, knowledge and talent. You will be >missed. > >73 >Don Jacob >WB5EKU > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:37 PM vk2tv via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> >wrote: > > > Thanks Phil, > > > > I offer my condolences to all who new Brian. > > > > Ray vk2tv > > > > On 23/11/19 10:27 am, Phil Karn via 44Net wrote: > > > I have very sad news. My good friend, Brian Kantor, WB6CYT > > > <https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qRxpLrc/1/X4/i-qRxpLrc-X4.jpg>, > > > suddenly passed away this week at his home in San Diego, California. > > > Brian retired only two years ago after 47 years of service on the staff > > > at the University of California San Diego (UCSD). Way back in the mid > > > 1980s, Brian and I founded AMPRnet, the TCP/IP over amateur radio > > > network. He continued to manage it until his passing. > > > > > > Brian recently created and served as chair and CEO of Amateur Radio > > > Digital Communications (ARDC), a charitable foundation funded by the > > > sale of unused AMPRnet IPv4 addresses. ARDC promotes STEM education and > > > amateur radio digital development through scholarships and by funding > > > the development of open source hardware and software. > > > > > > Brian will be sorely missed and impossible to replace. Memorial > > > arrangements will be announced when known. > > > > > > Phil Karn, KA9Q > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James T. Fortney, K6IYK / AAA9R6 E-mail: K6IYK(a)K6IYK.net or K6IYK(a)K6IYK.radio or K6IYK(a)220sma.org or AAA9R6(a)usamars.us or Jim(a)Fortney.org Voice: 805.491.3916 Cell: 805.208.3108 Snail: P.O. Box 12589 Prescott,, AZ 86304-2589 Assistant Director, ARRL Southwestern Division <http://ARRLSWD.org> IT Services Officer, US Army MARS - Region 9 <<http://usamars.us/>http://USAMARS.us> President, Valley Emergency Radio Association <http://VERA.k6iyk.net> Treasurer & Information Services Officer, 220SMA <http://220SMA.org> Member: AMSAT, ARES, Army MARS, ARRL, CACTUS, DCS, NCS-SHARES, OMARS, SARBA, RACES, TAPR, YARC, 220SMA "It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license." --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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IPIP and RIP configuration on a Mikrotik
by Paul Greeff 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

Hi OM I'm hoping to pick someone's brain with regards to the IPIP and RIP config for AMPRnet on my Mikrotik at home. I'm using the guide http://www.yo2loj.ro/hamprojects/ampr-gw-README.txt, which indicates after step seven and a few minutes of waiting I should see my routing table populated with routes with a 44rip routing mark. Nope. I've monitored for port 520 on the IPIP as well as Internet facing interface and see no activity. I also haven't seen a single packet on the ucsd-gw interface (not sure if I should at this time). So I'm obviously missing something important and perhaps fundamental in this configuration. Please send some of your wisdom my way. Regards Paul (ZS6IO) -- Paul Greeff email(a)paulgreeff.com Office: +27 86 100 3117 Cell: +27 83 954 3453 Fax: 086 659 0511 Winlink: zs6io(a)winlink.org

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IPIP and RIP configuration on a Mikrotik
by Thomas Glaab 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

That guide worked for establishing the tunnel, but I don't seem to get working RIP packets. The IP address for my local port is 44.x.y.1/32 with a network of 44.x.y.0 (/24). But the IP address on the tunnel interface is 44.x.y.2/32 with a network of 44.0.0.0 (/8). Somehow this works and the tunnel connects. Every five minutes I see some packets come in and a packet capture shows the clear text password in them. But the RIP listener isn't seeing them. I even set the RIP to listen for any advertisement (not just 44.0.0.0) on any interface. tg. AJ4UQ. On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:28 PM Paul Greeff via 44Net < 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: > Hi OM > > I'm hoping to pick someone's brain with regards to the IPIP and RIP config > for AMPRnet on my Mikrotik at home. > > I'm using the guide http://www.yo2loj.ro/hamprojects/ampr-gw-README.txt, > which indicates after step seven and a few minutes of waiting I should see > my routing table populated with routes with a 44rip routing mark. Nope. > > I've monitored for port 520 on the IPIP as well as Internet facing > interface and see no activity. I also haven't seen a single packet on the > ucsd-gw interface (not sure if I should at this time). So I'm obviously > missing something important and perhaps fundamental in this configuration. > > Please send some of your wisdom my way. > > Regards > Paul (ZS6IO) > -- > Paul Greeff > email(a)paulgreeff.com > Office: +27 86 100 3117 > Cell: +27 83 954 3453 > Fax: > 086 659 0511 > Winlink: > zs6io(a)winlink.org > _________________________________________ > 44Net mailing list > 44Net(a)mailman.ampr.org > https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net >

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44Net coordinator for South Africa
by Paul Greeff 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

Good day OM I am trying to locate the new coordinator for South Africa. With the unfortunate passing of Dick ZS6RO no one is dishing out network allocations for South Africans. Regards Paul (ZS6IO) -- Paul Greeff email(a)paulgreeff.com Office: +27 86 100 3117 Cell: +27 83 954 3453 Fax: 086 659 0511 Winlink: zs6io(a)winlink.org

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Need connection partner
by VE3OY Matt 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

Greetings OM's. I operate a URONode and FBB BBS in Toronto, Canada (FN03GQ). Recently, my connection partner (VE2PKT) has gone offline due to technical problems. Is there anyone on this continent (Canada or USA) that would be willing to become a partner with me? I need access using any of: UDP port 92, 93, 10092, 10093 or 10094. I am not on the 44 net currently. Thanks and 73, Matt / VE3OY -- /My mind is like a web browser. 27 tabs are open, 9 aren't responding, lots of pop-ups...and where is that annoying music coming from?/

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Re: [44net] Portal Messaging
by Brian Kantor 03 Nov '19

03 Nov '19

Use regular email. There is no return message function. null

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Portal Messaging
by Geoff Joy -KE6QH- 03 Nov '19

03 Nov '19

Greetings, I received a "Contact Coordinator" message from the portal. How exactly are we supposed to reply to these? There is no "Messages" menu item in the coordinators menu. Am I supposed to reply directly to the other party or what? -- Geoff Joy - ke6qh - AmprNet IP Address Coordinator for San Bernardino & Riverside Counties. (44.18/16)

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NPR (New Packet Radio): Modems for sale (world-wide)
by f4hdk 28 Oct '19

28 Oct '19

Hello, There are lots of news about my project "New Packet Radio". Reminder, all info is here: https://hackaday.io/project/164092 A Chinese partner is now selling modems, assembled or kits, world-wide. Price is low : 80$ fully assembled, with aluminum enclosure. https://www.elekitsorparts.com/product/npr-70 I have improved the firmware, it's more stable, and it now allows the optional "FDD mode" (Frequency Division Duplex). With this optional feature, you can use the Master (=repeater) in duplex mode, with 2 modems (TX/RX) and a RF duplexer. The frequencies are different between uplink (from Clients to Master) and downlink (from Master to Clients). Clients are half duplex, with one single modem, switching very fast (300us) between uplink and downlink frequencies. The main goal is to put NPR master on tower where there is already a duplex repeater (FM or DMR or D-Star...), without interference between the 2 repeaters. Check all the documentation on hackaday for more details: mainly "Introduction", and "Advanced user guide". The new firmware is also on hackaday of course. Finally, I have written an article for "IEEE spectrum"; It's currently on the web, and it will be on the paper version in a few days. I hope it will bring some advertisement to my project, and to the modern amateur radio movement. https://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/hands-on/build-a-longdistance-data-netw… If you have any question, just ask me. 73, Guillaume F4HDK

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Mailing list for Hamnet newbies
by f1sxo＠zulian.be 23 Oct '19

23 Oct '19

Hello, My knowledge and experience is lower than the participants on this mailling list. I don't understand most of the topics discussed . Examples : - What's the connection between Amprgw, Caida and USCD/NT? - Where can I find information about the structure of Amprgw ? Do you know a "Hamnet ML for newbies" ? :-) Frédéric F1sxo

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Re: [44net] 44Net Digest, Vol 8, Issue 168
by kd6oat 21 Oct '19

21 Oct '19

I am the Utah coordinator and appreciate Brian's comment that this matter should not be dealt with in this forum. Thank you. Ken - KD6OAT On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:00 PM <44net-request(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote: > Send 44Net mailing list submissions to > 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 44net-request(a)mailman.ampr.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 44net-owner(a)mailman.ampr.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 44Net digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration (Keith Kasin) > 2. Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) (Ruben ON3RVH) > 3. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) > (Paul Sladen) > 4. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) > (Brian Kantor) > 5. Re: Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) > (Bryan Fields) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:11:56 -0700 > From: Keith Kasin <ai6bx.keith(a)verizon.net> > To: "ai6bx.keith" <ai6bx.keith(a)verizon.net>, <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> > Subject: Re: [44net] Mikrotik hAP ac lite gateway configuration > Message-ID: <35EECA40-B9B8-4563-8D8A-FD7786A9A292(a)verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Greetings all. I am trying to set up a gateway on the MikroTik hAP lite > following the posted instructions at > http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_MikroTik_Routers. A few > questions as I do not seem to be having success. At the end, prior to > installing scripts, I do have access to the broader Internet however still > have a 192.168.88.x address issued to my PC. > > > > Question on step 1: At first assign 44 Net address to your router > Interface You do it by the web : IP --> Addresses --> Add New , a new > screen will open , fill your 44 Net IP 44.xxx.YYY.ZZZ/your sub net (usually > it will be /24) feel the network it should usually be same as the IP but > with 0 in the end > > In the first I am using my 44 IP of 44.18.50.1/28 and then using the > 44.18.50.0 in the network slot. Is that correct? I then assigned this to > one of the LAN ports on the MikroTik which looks correct for the LAN IP > info as it does change this from the 192.168.88.x sequence. The checkbox > below that still shows as NAT, should this change to DHCP? > > > > Now some routes commands needed to be done > > 1) Route all the traffic to the tunnel interface > > You do it by : IP --> Routes and clicking on the 0.0.0.0 line and changing > the gateway to the tunnel interface name and clicking apply > > The command line in text is as follow > > If I use the /ip route > add distance=1 gateway=UCSD > > It creates a new entry showing UCSD however it does not connect. Am I > doing something wrong in this whole process? > > > > After creating the tunnel the following instruction does not yield an > editable gateway box as it would lead me to think it would so I cannot > select the UCSD gateway. I did also load the scripts linked at the bottom > of the page with edited IP addresses relevant to my networks and so not see > the routes table updating. > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Keith ? AI6BX > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 11:18:07 +0000 > From: Ruben ON3RVH <on3rvh(a)on3rvh.be> > To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> > Subject: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans (KI7HOC) > Message-ID: > < > AM6PR01MB41829D7D296205CCC15C2F76D3690(a)AM6PR01MB4182.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > > Just wanted to get some background info on this one. We got a subnet > request from, who appeared to be KI7HOC located in Utah. > He requested a /24 and wanted to route that through BGP by AS208173 > (-- > organisation: ORG-TYRA2-RIPE > org-name: Jori Vanneste > descr: Tyrasuki > --) > > The ASN owner is located in Belgium and seems a bit shady to me looking > through the subnets he's announcing (one IPv4 /24 from Africa and a few > IPv6 subnets from APNIC, RIPE) and maintainers on the ASN (Singapore, > Sweden, Switserland, ..) > The email domain used, uses a whois hiding service and does not match > Alekzandr's email address on QRZ. Emailing Alekzandr on his QRZ email > address does not yield a respons, however returning the allocation request > to the requestor almost immediatly prompts a return through the AMPR portal > form. > > The details in the request: > -- > Name: Alekzandr Evans > Email: ampr(a)alekeagle.com<mailto:ampr@alekeagle.com> > Callsign: KI7HOC > -- > Note in the original request: "AE: The operator of the AS number posted > above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify a Belgian > allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one." > -- > > My question would be if anybody on the list knows Alekzandr and can speak > to him if this request is legit or not. > >From his QRZ page, Alekzandr is 12, nothing wrong with that, but the way > that the email domain is using a whois hiding service makes me ponder if > this might be a scam from someone posing as Alekzandr trying to get a BGP > routed /24 for free. > > Has anyone else received a request from this callsign? > > Any input would be appreciated. We ended up denying the request as neither > Alekzandr, nor that Jori are a holder of a valid ON ham license and > Alekzandr did not respond to the question which ham services he would be > hosting on this subnet (I asked that question because of my suspicions) and > I haven't received any answer to my direct email to Alekzandr's qrz email > address neither. > > 73, > > Ruben - ON3RVH > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:01:11 +0100 (BST) > From: Paul Sladen <44net(a)paul.sladen.org> > To: Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> > Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans > (KI7HOC) > Message-ID: > <Pine.LNX.4.21.1910211237390.28516-100000(a)starsky.19inch.net> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote: > > subnet request from, ... KI7HOC located in Utah. ... > > a /24 ... BGP by AS208173 ... located in Belgium > > https://as208173.net/ > https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP." > > https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&key=as-… > > The descriptions appear to be an experimental/educational network for > *learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals. > > The request appears to be coming from a licensed HAM, with details all > technically correct and present. > > > domain used, uses a whois hiding service > > Most domain registrations now use some (automatic) hiding/obfuscation > of contact email addresses. Including (for example) for 'on3rvh.be'. > > > does not match Alekzandr's email address on QRZ. ... > > Email: ampr(a)alekeagle.com > > The 'ampr@' prefix shows a customisation for AMPRnet purposes. (cf. > '44net@' prefix in this email address, but 'qrz(a)p.s.o' on QRZ). > Such prefixes allow easy tracking of when email addresses have leaked. > > > in the original request: "AE: The operator of the AS number posted > > above lives in Belgium. Though I'm not sure if this would justify > > a Belgian allocation, he recommended me to request a Belgian one." > > ... > > We ended up denying the request as neither Alekzandr, > > Alekzandr has clearly stated the rationale for applying for a Belgium > assignment. > > Ideally the maintainers responsible for ONxxx and Kxxxx would, > firstly, work together to discuss the jurisdiction where the > assignment/application might most appropriately made. > > Would this be a good next-stop to take, in conjuction with Alekzandr? > > (Perhaps along with a humble apology to Alekzandr). > > 73, > -Paul > -- > Encourage those with an active interest! > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 05:33:27 -0700 > From: Brian Kantor <Brian(a)bkantor.net> > To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> > Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans > (KI7HOC) > Message-ID: <20191021123327.GB14358(a)meow.BKantor.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am dealing with this off-list. I don't think the 44net technical > discussion list is the appropriate forum for this matter. > > Let's not discuss it further here. > - Brian > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:01:11PM +0100, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:35:58 -0400 > From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> > Subject: Re: [44net] Registration request from Alekzandr Evans > (KI7HOC) > Message-ID: <4223801d-d49c-808f-b7a5-33bc1f78a03a(a)bryanfields.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 10/21/19 8:01 AM, Paul Sladen via 44Net wrote: > > https://as208173.net/ > > https://as139347.net/ "Educational ASN for learning BGP." > > > https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/lookup?source=RIPE&type=as-set&key=as-… > > > > The descriptions appear to be an experimental/educational network for > > *learning BGP*. Very much in-tune with the AMPRNet stated goals. > > > > The request appears to be coming from a licensed HAM, with details all > > technically correct and present. > > I've borrowed an ASN from others before, we're doing that for much of IP > space > we have live here in Florida. It's valid so long as you have an LOA for > it. > > I've found many people who request IPs may not be ready to announce them, > and > have no idea of the typical requirements. Much like "paper repeaters", > they > want to reserve "their" space, but are not ready to use it. > > I'd have asked who the upstream would be, and get an LOA from the AS > holder. > The whole regional administrator thing breaks a bit with sharing ASN's like > this, IMO it should be an application to Utah. That way he's got a local > person in his time zone to talk to. It could be 100% legit, best thing to > do > is get the docs and grant it. Get on the phone and verifying helps too. > > If it's not legit, we'll know in a week when the spam reports roll in :) > > A 12 year old running BGP is cool. I thought I was hot shit when I > migrated > to qmail at his age. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > 44Net mailing list > 44Net(a)mailman.ampr.org > https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net > > > ------------------------------ > > End of 44Net Digest, Vol 8, Issue 168 > ************************************* >

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