Setup done !

Reached 44.0.0.1 via ICMP ,and KB3VWG-10 also (means that dns works !)

Lyndwood, could you please cut off the internet acces of 44.60.44.10, I wish to test now with ampr net. Thanks

73 from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Marius Petrescu Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 14:16 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ He needs it for OpenWRT on x86...

-----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 14:18 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu ; kb9mwr@gmail.com Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/

Should be available at this time to the Internet at-large.

- Lynwood KB3VWG

_________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

Hi

From 44.131.243.1 I’m not getting a reply.

Feel free to ping me or http to g0hxt-02.ampr.org which is 44.13.243.3

Regards

Andy Brittain G0HXT g0hxt@greatbrittain.co.uk

On 14 Feb 2016, at 17:08, Jean-Marc Magnier magnier.jeanmarc@numericable.fr wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Also would anyone try a ping on 44.151.178.2 ? Thanks

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Jean-Marc Magnier Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 18:04 À : 'AMPRNet working group' 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Setup done !

Reached 44.0.0.1 via ICMP ,and KB3VWG-10 also (means that dns works !)

Lyndwood, could you please cut off the internet acces of 44.60.44.10, I wish to test now with ampr net. Thanks

73 from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Marius Petrescu Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 14:16 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ He needs it for OpenWRT on x86...

-----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 14:18 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu ; kb9mwr@gmail.com Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/

Should be available at this time to the Internet at-large.

• Lynwood

KB3VWG

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Humm ! Seems I reached 44.0.0.1 via public network. Is that normal ?

Also I think mu tunnel did not raised up. I can't see rip messages incoming

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Andy Brittain Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 18:19 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ correction

g0hxt-02.ampr.org is on 44.131.243.3 :-)

Regards

Andy Brittain G0HXT g0hxt@greatbrittain.co.uk

On 14 Feb 2016, at 17:16, Andy Brittain g0hxt@greatbrittain.co.uk wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi

From 44.131.243.1 I’m not getting a reply.

Feel free to ping me or http to g0hxt-02.ampr.org which is 44.13.243.3

Regards

Andy Brittain G0HXT g0hxt@greatbrittain.co.uk

...

On 14 Feb 2016, at 17:08, Jean-Marc Magnier magnier.jeanmarc@numericable.fr wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Also would anyone try a ping on 44.151.178.2 ? Thanks

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.e du] De la part de Jean-Marc Magnier Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 18:04 À : 'AMPRNet working group' 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Setup done !

Reached 44.0.0.1 via ICMP ,and KB3VWG-10 also (means that dns works !)

Lyndwood, could you please cut off the internet acces of 44.60.44.10, I wish to test now with ampr net. Thanks

73 from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.e du] De la part de Marius Petrescu Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 14:16 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ He needs it for OpenWRT on x86...

-----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 14:18 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu ; kb9mwr@gmail.com Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/

Should be available at this time to the Internet at-large.

• Lynwood

KB3VWG

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Jean-Marc.

No response to my pings from 44.151.178.2

neither via Internet, nor via AMPRNet.

Best regards. --- Tom - SP2L

Sent from Xperia Z1 with AquaMail http:/​/​www​.​aqua-mail​.​com

Dnia 14 lutego 2016 6:08:55 PM "Jean-Marc Magnier" magnier.jeanmarc@numericable.fr napisał(a):

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Also would anyone try a ping on 44.151.178.2 ? Thanks

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Jean-Marc Magnier Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 18:04 À : 'AMPRNet working group' 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Setup done !

Reached 44.0.0.1 via ICMP ,and KB3VWG-10 also (means that dns works !)

Lyndwood, could you please cut off the internet acces of 44.60.44.10, I wish to test now with ampr net. Thanks

73 from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Marius Petrescu Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 14:16 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ He needs it for OpenWRT on x86...

-----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 14:18 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu ; kb9mwr@gmail.com Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/

Should be available at this time to the Internet at-large.

• Lynwood

KB3VWG

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Hi ! It's working now. All, you can try to ping 44.151.178.2, and also http to 44.151.178.1 to get the login screen of my router.

Please report

73 QRO from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de SP2L Tom Envoyé : lundi 15 février 2016 10:33 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Jean-Marc.

No response to my pings from 44.151.178.2

neither via Internet, nor via AMPRNet.

Best regards. --- Tom - SP2L

Sent from Xperia Z1 with AquaMail http:/​/​www​.​aqua-mail​.​com

Dnia 14 lutego 2016 6:08:55 PM "Jean-Marc Magnier" magnier.jeanmarc@numericable.fr napisał(a):

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Also would anyone try a ping on 44.151.178.2 ? Thanks

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.ed u] De la part de Jean-Marc Magnier Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 18:04 À : 'AMPRNet working group' 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Setup done !

Reached 44.0.0.1 via ICMP ,and KB3VWG-10 also (means that dns works !)

Lyndwood, could you please cut off the internet acces of 44.60.44.10, I wish to test now with ampr net. Thanks

73 from F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.ed u] De la part de Marius Petrescu Envoyé : dimanche 14 février 2016 14:16 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ He needs it for OpenWRT on x86...

-----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 14:18 To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu ; kb9mwr@gmail.com Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/

Should be available at this time to the Internet at-large.

• Lynwood

KB3VWG

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Hi Peter,

Ping to your IP from here works. Could you please verify that you get the range 44.151.178.0 in you 44 table please ? 73 QRO F1SCA

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+magnier.jeanmarc=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de Peter Mallett Envoyé : mardi 16 février 2016 09:51 À : AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Objet : Re: [44net] ampr-ripd for openwrt

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ On 16/02/16 21:26, Jean-Marc Magnier wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Hi ! It's working now. All, you can try to ping 44.151.178.2, and also

http to 44.151.178.1 to get the login screen of my router.

Please report

73 QRO from F1SCA

Hello,

Do not get a reply from 44.151.178.2 on a ping

No page found with http to 44.151.178.1

Regards ...... Peter ZL2BAU ( 44.147.210.26 )

_________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

And yes, I also do have you in my routing table.

Best regards. --- Tom - SP2L

Sent from Xperia Z1 with AquaMail http:/​/​www​.​aqua-mail​.​com

Apparently, 44.151.178.2 still NO RESPONDS to pings neither from my server side (44.165.2.2), nor from AMPRNet VPN (44.139.11/24), and via Internet as well...

Best regards. --- Tom - SP2L

Sent from Xperia Z1 with AquaMail http:/​/​www​.​aqua-mail​.​com

http://44.60.44.10/amprnet_docs/start_ampr_version2/

73,

- Lynwood KB3VWG

Yes, my node is runs on OpenWRT 15.05 on a Western Digital My Net N750 Gigabit Dual Band Router. I compiled ampr-ripd for the appropriate CPU.

Details can be found at:

http://wiki.ampr.org/index.php/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_OpenWRT

73,

-Lynwood KB3VWG

-----Original Message----- 2) I saw that OpenWrt also support IPIP so what about doing Gateway with home Router (my TP-link 741ND router is one of the routers that support OpenWrt) will it work ? (before I flash it ) or is there any limitation ?

Ronen,

As we discussed on 25 FEB, my gateway is a Western Digital My Net N750 running OpenWRT 15.04. The hardware specifications can be found here:

https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/westerndigital/westerndigital_mynetn750

- All interfaces on my device are sub-interfaces of: eth0, wlan0 (2.4 GHz) or wlan1 (5.4 GHz). In the future, I want to migrate to a device that has multiple Gigabit Ethernet interfaces built-in. Layer 2 switching does appear to be hardware-based though (as the switch IC is capable). I have a second N750 in my network configured as a 5-port managed switch, and I surmise more Ethernet interfaces could be added with USB devices compatible with the Linux kernel. I've attempted to connect a D-Link DSB-650 100 Mbps adapter (which works on Linux desktops and servers). So I need to install a module or driver.

You can compare your specific device model here:

https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start

The OpenWRT installation on the AMPR wiki was developed on my hardware (see edit notes). As for memory, it runs very well. I can make SNMP-based graphs available in the coming days (as I'm monitoring the device). I usually have a higher system load when navigating the LuCI web interface live graphs; but it does not fail, slow, halt or crash network traffic noticeably.

In addition to ampr-ripd, it also runs/had installed at a single time: ntpd, dnsmasq, snmpd, igmp proxy, LuCI plugins for QoS/Traffic Shaping, Samba, OpenVPN, USB, file systems, dynamic DNS, IPv6 tunneling, ping6, traceroute6 and softflowd (NetFlow). In addition, I have installed the other modules and packages needed to setup the IPIP tunnel, I still have flash space remaining.

73,

-Lynwood KB3VWG

Ronen,

http://www.kb3vwg.info:4444/cacti/

Username: 44user Password: ampr1234

- KB3VWG

Lynwood,

What's about ?

-----Message d'origine----- De : 44Net [mailto:44net-bounces+f1sca=numericable.fr@hamradio.ucsd.edu] De la part de lleachii--- via 44Net Envoyé : lundi 7 mars 2016 00:08 À : 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Cc : lleachii@aol.com Objet : [44net] Misconfiguration of gateway tunnel interfaces

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ All,

I've been observing the following:

a. - gateways sending RFC1918 addresses in the inside header (e.g. 192.168.11.0/24)

b- gateways encapsulating their commercial IP in the inside header.

While this reply is sent in case B, my gateway, as well as AMPRGW, receives ICMP destination port unreachable responses for these requests. Since the related traffic is an IP PROTOCOL 4 - IPENCAP packet to my commercial IP, and not the internal TCP, UDP, etc. packet addressed to my 44LAN.

It also produces unneeded traffic to your border which is statefully firewalled. - F1SCA's gateway is producing such traffic

Please let me know if you discover the anomaly (and/or how it is solved).

- Lynwood KB3VWG _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

I just saw that there's a problem from my side, trying to solve it. Apologize for that garbage

F1SCA Jean-Marc

-----Message d'origine----- De : lleachii@aol.com [mailto:lleachii@aol.com] Envoyé : lundi 7 mars 2016 00:38 À : 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu; f1sca f1sca@numericable.fr Objet : Re: [44net] Misconfiguration of gateway tunnel interfaces

Your DNS request are as follows:

HEADER1SRC: 89.157.161.5 PROTOCOL 4 - IPENCAP HEADER1DST: 74.96.94.31 PROTOCOL 4 - IPENCAP

*** HEADER2SRC: 89.157.161.5 udp *** HEADER2DST: 44.60.44.3 53/udp(DNS)

HEADER2SRC should be a 44.0.0.0/8 address.

- Lynwood

On 03/06/2016 06:27 PM, f1sca wrote:

Lynwood,

What's about ?

b- gateways encapsulating their commercial IP in the inside header.

+1

Regarding a wiki, I can start drafting notes for a future page.

There's quite of few options available for monitoring though (here's a personal list from least-to-most comprehensive):

- monitoring the LAN/VLAN - NetFlow / traffic reporting from the router - connecting the carrier ISP border and my KB3VWG router with a Layer 1 Hub (I use this method) - running a monitoring software on the device itself and accessing/copying the results - switch port mirroring

I've used a combination of all the methods previously; but beginning yesterday, I begun using a 100 Mbps Layer 1 Hub between my router and carrier Ethernet demarcation.

Brian,

I've been wondering for some time: I haven't been unable to reach http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu from AMPRNet. I know that this host is probably somewhere around AMPRNet (metric-wise).

Is there some restriction, route issue or firewall preventing a connection?

I emailed them some years ago (thinking it may be the 1480 MTU, as I can ping), they stated they knew of none.

- Lynwood KB3VWG

Thank you all Currently the Cisco router that server as AMPRNET Gateway (in my case), sit in the home router DMZ I want to move it into the home router home network but i need to do some port mapping The home router does not have IPENCAP rules it only know to pass Protocols UDP /TCP and Port numbers ... So what Protocol /Port number consider IPENCAP ? Thanks FOrward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of lleachii--- via 44Net 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:21 AM To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ronen:

on the WAN interface allow: - IPIP Encap - IP Protocol 4

on your tunnel interface allow: - RIP44 - from 44.0.0.1 udp/520 to 224.0.0.9 udp/520

This information is available in the Wiki under: 'Setting up a Gateway with OpenWRT.'

Hello David (And Others) The Router is TP-LINK Tlwr741ND with Original Manufacturer firmware The Cisco Router sit in the DMZ I have made in the TL741ND and the AMPRNEET works fine I want to move it to the Regular Network Because the EchoLink Node need also DMZ so if I can free the amprnet to non DMZ the echo link will sit on the DMZ but in order to do it i need to know the TCP/UDP Port ... if any at all If I will have no choice ill flash the 741ND to opn WRT But dont want to do it unless no other choice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of David Ranch amprgw@trinnet.net Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:44 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________

Hello Ronen,

Currently the Cisco router that server as AMPRNET Gateway (in my case), sit in the home router DMZ

Is the IPIP traffic getting through your "home router's DMZ" now? Who makes the "home router"? A manufacturer, model number, and probably the version of the unit would be helpful

I want to move it into the home router home network but i need to do some port mapping The home router does not have IPENCAP rules

Most don't and unless your home router has either:

- "very" advanced forwarding rules - can be put into bridge mode - can be re-flashed to use a feature rich firmware like OpenWRT, DDWRT, etc. - get replaced with a feature-rich unit

it only know to pass Protocols UDP /TCP and Port numbers ... So what Protocol /Port number consider IPENCAP ?

That's expected.. the IPIP tunneling system again uses protocol 4. There are NO other items to consider here. If your home router's DMZ network is indeed working, why not leave it running there? It probably also supports configuring firewall rules, NAT, etc. It might not be as simple to configure but it's probably more powerful than you'll ever need.

--David KI6ZHD

I host a 70cm echolink node and did not need to place that PC in the DMZ.

I did need to forward UDP ports 5198 and 5199 to the PC running echolink. I don't remember whether I also forwarded TCP port 5200 or whether that "looked after itself".

73 Frank vk2akg

On 21 Mar 2016 at 10:35 Cory (NQ1E) wrote:

I want to move it to the Regular Network Because the EchoLink Node need also DMZ

Dear Marius So if I Understand correct regular home routers that have only TCP/UDP in their redirection rules dont know what to do with IPIP and will not pass it at all ? Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Marius Petrescu marius@yo2loj.ro Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:23 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Just to make it clear:

IPENCAP (4) is a Layer 4 IP protocol, like ICMP (1), TCP (6), UDP (17), GRE(47), OSPF(89), AXIP (93) and a lot of others, with the difference that it transports another L3 protocol (IP). It works on top of IP, which is the Layer 3 protocol on the internet. And there are other L3 protocols, like ARP, IPv6, AppleTalk DDP, IPX, IPSEC and others. IPENCAP has no port numbers. Those are specific for TCP and UDP, and that's it. You can not "simulate" it by port numbers.

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But , if you have that Cisco router, why don't you replace the home router with it and make it do both jobs?

Marius, YO2LOJ

-----Original Message----- From: R P Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 19:05 To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Dear Marius So if I Understand correct regular home routers that have only TCP/UDP in their redirection rules dont know what to do with IPIP and will not pass it at all ? Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of Marius Petrescu marius@yo2loj.ro Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:23 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Just to make it clear:

IPENCAP (4) is a Layer 4 IP protocol, like ICMP (1), TCP (6), UDP (17), GRE(47), OSPF(89), AXIP (93) and a lot of others, with the difference that it transports another L3 protocol (IP). It works on top of IP, which is the Layer 3 protocol on the internet. And there are other L3 protocols, like ARP, IPv6, AppleTalk DDP, IPX, IPSEC and others. IPENCAP has no port numbers. Those are specific for TCP and UDP, and that's it. You can not "simulate" it by port numbers.

- _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net@hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net

The Tunnel is made via Encap to The UCSD router The Home Internet have a no-IP name registered at the Portal (to deal with dynamic IP address) The TP-LInk router have a DMZ and the Cisco (Which deal with the IPIP ) sit on this DMZ And he deal with the IPIP trafic

________________________________________ From: 44Net 44net-bounces+ronenp=hotmail.com@hamradio.ucsd.edu on behalf of lleachii--- via 44Net 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:01 PM To: 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Cc: lleachii@aol.com Subject: Re: [44net] ports / Protocoles needed to be opened for a gateway ?

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Ronen,

How does your Gateway receive/process AMPR routes?

Correct, that describes inbound.

But how do you route outbound traffic to their Gateways? Do you use RIP44 or Encap.txt?

For example, how does your traffic reach 44.60.44.1? (traceroute)

- KB3VWG

On 03/21/2016 04:01 PM:

The Tunnel is made via Encap to The UCSD router The Home Internet have a no-IP name registered at the Portal (to deal with dynamic IP address) The TP-LInk router have a DMZ and the Cisco (Which deal with the IPIP ) sit on this DMZ And he deal with the IPIP trafic

Try again.

-----Original Message-----

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /amprnet_docs/start_ampr_version2/ on this server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at 44.60.44.10 Port 80

Thank You

_ Feel free to navigate to the homepage:

http://wiki.ampr.org

and look for: "Instructions for setting up a gateway on OpenWRT." -

Hi Ronen,

Hi there Who is responsible for the wiki ?

Just send an email to wiki@ampr.org requesting a login and stating your preferred username.

I would like to add a paragraph dealing with adding a Gateway with Routers (Im willing to contribute my knowledge on the Cisco ones and would be happy if someone else will contribute his knowledge on Microbic)

That would be great -thank you, the more people who contribute to the Wiki, the more useful it becomes.

73’s, G1FEF Chris

I have sent a request.

Regards

Andy Brittain G0HXT g0hxt@greatbrittain.co.uk

On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:17, G1FEF chris@g1fef.co.uk wrote:

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...

Hi there Who is responsible for the wiki ?

Just send an email to wiki@ampr.org requesting a login and stating your preferred username.

...

I would like to add a paragraph dealing with adding a Gateway with Routers (Im willing to contribute my knowledge on the Cisco ones and would be happy if someone else will contribute his knowledge on Microbic)

That would be great -thank you, the more people who contribute to the Wiki, the more useful it becomes.

73’s, G1FEF Chris

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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:40 AM, R P ronenp@hotmail.com wrote:

Is there any NTP in the 44 net ?

You can use ntp.hamwan.net.

and in general where is a list of services (with IP addresses of the servers) that reside on the AMPRNET ?

That is a very good question. There's no central list, but this would be a great resource if someone wanted to compile one.

Tom KD7LXL

Please don't "hijack" discussion threads. Please use "Compose New Message" button to create a new discussion thread.

vy 73 de Marc, LX1DUC

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Hi there Is there any NTP in the 44 net ? and in general where is a list of services (with IP addresses of the servers) that reside on the AMPRNET ? Please Advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

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I'm not sure if your solution if free; I use Cacti on Ubuntu:

http://cacti.net/

On Ubuntu:

sudo apt-get install cacti

then navigate to http://<IP ADDRESS/cacti/

To make visual maps, I use the Network Weathermap plugin for Cacti:

http://network-weathermap.com/

73,

- Lynwood KB3VWG

Ronen,

NTP servers:

- kb3vwg-001.ampr.org (44.60.44.1 - AMPR and Internet)

and

- www.kb3vwg.info (Dynamic IP, AMPR and Internet)

- KB3VWG

Is there anyone who operate on his gateway NEt/Rom Node that connected also to Radio Port ? Or those days of the Packet has gone and replaced with high speed WIFI links only ?

If there is still someone with Net/Rom I would like to try and connect to him Thanks Forward Ronen- 4Z4ZQ jttp://www.ronen.org

Hi Ronen,

I do! I have a radio port on 438025 KHZ @ 9600bps in Athens, but very few (counted in the fingers of one hand and less) operate there! The only one who is QRV 24/7 on this frequency is another AMPRnet GATEWAY operator!

--- 73 Δημήτρης - SV1UY 73 de Demetre - SV1UY IP Coordinator for AMPRNet in Greece e-mail: demetre.sv1uy@gmail.com Radio e-mail: sv1uy@winlink.org AMPRnet e-mail: sv1uy@sv1uy.ampr.org PACKET mail: SV1UY@SV1UY.ATH.GRC.EU WEB: http://www.qsl.net/sv1uy

On 26 February 2016 at 23:33, R P ronenp@hotmail.com wrote:

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Is there anyone who operate on his gateway NEt/Rom Node that connected also to Radio Port ? Or those days of the Packet has gone and replaced with high speed WIFI links only ?

If there is still someone with Net/Rom I would like to try and connect to him Thanks Forward Ronen- 4Z4ZQ jttp://www.ronen.org

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Rohnen,

echolink:

svxlink (to control your echolink repeater) This includes the qtel echolink client. Qtel is also available as a separate package in some distributions.

echoirlp is software that can be added to irlp repeater nodes.

packet:

jnos linbpq Xnet ax25 utilities UroNode

and more like FPAC, etc.

You can install packet (jnos + linbpq + FBB + XNet + UroNode + ax25 utilities, etc) + JavAPRS and IRLP/ EchoIRLP in one Linux PC

You attach your tnc's in linux (kissattach) and you can use net2kiss to echo traffic from other software like jnos to the radio ports. In that way all nodes can "directly" access the radio ports.

How fancy you make it is up to you but everything can run in one computer.

Bob VE3TOK

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Hi group Are they any echolink and Packet Software (mainly Net/Rom) that can run on linux ? Say I adopt the idea of making a gateway with Linux will this computer have a Packet (Include APRS) and EchoLink software that will be able to run under it ? Or I will have to insstall another PC with EChoLink AGWPacket and connect the TNC's (or use Soundcard as modem) to it ? Please Advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

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Let's see here.. working your way up from Layer1 for Linux:

- Direwolf sound-card TNC (significantly better than Tom Sailer's soundmodem)

- Ldsped for full AGW API support - DIrewolf doesn't support connection AGW connections.. just unconnected

- Svxlink Echolink server which also comes with the Qtel echolink client - it's also a full blown repeater controller with RTL dongle remote receiver support but you don't have to use all that

- APRX for APRS digi and igate functionality

- Linpac for classic packet client support and lightweight PBBS support

- OpenBCM for nicer light weight PBBS support with a web interface

- UroNode and FPAC (has ROSE support) - for netrom enabled node functionality

- Jnos, LInFBB, BPQ32 for full BBS functionality

I encourage you to check out the various software listings here. For example.. the packet listings: https://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=packet

I run the majority of those programs on my home system so I'm happy to give you had if you have questions. Almost all of these programs will need to be compiled from scratch to get the newest versions and as such, I've been writing up a document of how to do this for Centos over the last view years:

http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html

--David KI6ZHD

You can run Echolink under WINE in Linux without issues.

Also take a look at the AllStarLink Network (allstarlink.org). It uses Asterisk to connect systems together (WinSystem is one that comes to mind), and it also has support for Echolink.

It will also report your AllStarLink node via APRS, but it tends to focus on a static node (i.e., one that does not move).

It also supports APRStt.

73 Stacy KG7QIN

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Hi group Are they any echolink and Packet Software (mainly Net/Rom) that can run on linux ? Say I adopt the idea of making a gateway with Linux will this computer have a Packet (Include APRS) and EchoLink software that will be able to run under it ? Or I will have to insstall another PC with EChoLink AGWPacket and connect the TNC's (or use Soundcard as modem) to it ? Please Advice Thanks Forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

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All,

I noticed something today that may be an anomaly. This morning, at approximately 13:00 UTC, I had an Commercial IP address change from my ISP on my border after a power outage.

In the portal I'm listed as: www.kb3vwg.info (which is the DDNS hostname for my border)

My router booted and updated this DDNS name, as well as restoring tunl0. At about 14:10 UTC, I noticed AMPR traffic still had not been restored.

*** Solution: I observed in the portal that my IP and hostname was listed for the Gateway. I deleted the IP and hit "Save." Within seconds, navigating to the page shows the new IP in the field. *** Question: Does this mean the hostname feature in the portal doesn't dynamically update the Gateway IP addresses using Dynamic Hostnames - every n minutes? ***

73,

-Lynwood KB3VWG

Ronen,

All of us are responsible for the wiki - once you create an account, feel free to add/edit.

73,

- Lynwood KB3VWG

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How long it takes usually to get an answer ? Ronen - 4Z4ZQ

It's missing this script...

http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/wapr/tcpip/encapconvertnew.pl.txt

The two scripts Jerry posted grab the encap file and then feeds it into the router via telnet (respectively). What's missing in the first script is translating the encap.txt into route commands which the above will do.